Green Lantern (Hal) & Martian Manhunter Vs. Quasar & Nova Prime

Started by Desaad8 pages
Originally posted by -Pr-
i was talking about his mini too.

He's been affected by fire in his mini, and in Brightest Day, and not just 'passionate' fire.

Originally posted by dmills
[B]if that's the case, and indeed it hasn't been retconned, then that's game, set, match. If Dr. Light controls photons and can effect a GL energy ring, Quasar should be able to do the same since photons are basic units within the EM spectrum. So draining the ring is possible, or at the very least, manipulating its energy is.

See the Caveat?[/quote]

But that wasn't the case, and nothing was ever retconned, and no evidence was ever provided to indicate that it was.

Not just me. Iirc there are at least 3 others that shared that opinion and 1 that was open to the idea. So far you're the only one arguing against it. Or at least the most the most vigorous.

Three others? I see one other, all with nova or quasar in their sigs and/or Avatar. And there is someone else who seems to be backing me up at every turn, and another who is randomly vouching for me.

None of that matters, though, because right is right regardless of public perception.

And again, the argument was that Dr. Light controls the "Light aspect" of the energies, not nessecarily the energies themselves per se. So if that's the case, then it doesn't matter if it's a magical lightning bolt, or any other energy for that matter, if it gives off light then he can manipulate it. And since light (photons) is apart of the EM spectrum, and Dr. Light supposedly in the past has manipulated GL energy, then it's at least fair to conclude Quasar has a reasonable chance of replicating that. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that. Obviously there's some ambiguity there, but I just don't see this "majority of evidence" that you speak of. You're the GL expert so surely you can provide it no?

I understand the argument, but the argument is MOOT. Dr. Light was INCAPABLE of controling the Green Lantern energies until AFTER he had become trapped in Hal's battery for comic book months/years, and his ability to control energy has already proven itself to be greater than that of Quasar in breadth.

Dr. Light once being able to control Kyle's energy (and I stress once, in GL 3D, because he was INCAPABLE of doing so without the aid of the Worlogog when they later met) means nothing in regards to Quasar's ability to control that same energy. We've seen him unable to control psionic energies, which give off light components, and Dark Matter energies, which cast a glow, and other-dimensional energies, which have a light component, and magical energies, which have a light component.

Originally posted by zopzop
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Q-bands have NO control over non EM energies.

Dead issue bro. That's already been clearly established.

On another note, check your PM box when you get a chance bro. Thanks.

Originally posted by Desaad

But that wasn't the case, and nothing was ever retconned, and no evidence was ever provided to indicate that it was.

Three others? I see one other, all with nova or quasar in their sigs and/or Avatar. And there is someone else who seems to be backing me up at every turn, and another who is randomly vouching for me.

None of that matters, though, because right is right regardless of public perception.

I understand the argument, but the argument is MOOT. Dr. Light was INCAPABLE of controling the Green Lantern energies until AFTER he had become trapped in Hal's battery for comic book months/years, and his ability to control energy has already proven itself to be greater than that of Quasar in breadth.

Dr. Light once being able to control Kyle's energy (and I stress once, in GL 3D, because he was INCAPABLE of doing so without the aid of the Worlogog when they later met) means nothing in regards to Quasar's ability to control that same energy. We've seen him unable to control psionic energies, which give off light components, and Dark Matter energies, which cast a glow, and other-dimensional energies, which have a light component, and magical energies, which have a light component. [/B]

👆 Well if all that's true then that puts a serious wet blanket on that argument. Thanks for providing some context.

Edit: Did you get a chance to read that pm I sent to you?

btw this is a GL/MM vs. Q/NP thread. not a 1v1 so there are a lot of other factors involved.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
btw this is a GL/MM vs. Q/NP thread. not a 1v1 so there are a lot of other factors involved.
HAHAHA! Yeah that did kinda get lost in the shuffle huh?

Oh and BTW, apparently you and I can't have an unbiased opinion since we both have NP sigs and avatars! How cool is that!!!!

Originally posted by dmills
HAHAHA! Yeah that did kinda get lost in the shuffle huh?

Oh and BTW, apparently you and I can't have an unbiased opinion since we both have NP sigs and avatars! How cool is that!!!!

i guess anyone with a name/sig/avatar based on characters cant have an unbiased opinion eh?

😉

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
i guess anyone with a name/sig/avatar based on characters cant have an unbiased opinion eh?

😉

In a comic book forum? Nah!!

At any rate I'm done with this thread as I have nothing more really to offer. Good luck.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
i guess anyone with a name/sig/avatar based on characters cant have an unbiased opinion eh?

😉

Yup im the only exception 😖hifty:

Since I have a Sho Nuff sig my views can be trusted unless we are discussing who's the baddest mofo, low down, around this town.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Since I have a Sho Nuff sig my views can be trusted unless we are discussing who's the baddest mofo, low down, around this town.

I love that movie.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I love that movie.
Me too!

I just found out that the actor that played sho nuff' (Julius Carry) passed away a few years ago. So did the dude that played "Beast".

Originally posted by Desaad
He's been affected by fire in his mini, and in Brightest Day, and not just 'passionate' fire.

i know. i was referring to it by bringing up the napalm thing.