Originally posted by illadelph12
From what was shown in Blackest Night, I don't think it's been explicitly stated that the Emotional Spectrum was outside the regular EM spectrum and not EM wavelengths in as much as the source of the spectrum draws from the energy of life itself, moreover specific emotional expressions represent wavebands within the spectrum.Plus, iirc, Dr. Light and Tangent Superman had no problems manipulating the energy, so I see no reason as to why the Q-bands or someone like Captain Atom or Firestorm wouldn't be able to manipulate the energy.
Dr. Light HAS actually shown difficulty absorbing the Green Lantern energy, during Hal's run, and whats more has demonstrated the ability to absorb and control energies outside the electromag spectrum, including magical energies.
So he's not a good example, really. The exact nature of the GL energy is totally up for grabs, but the emotional spectrum stuff seems to indicate that it's a form of psionic/soul energy, not direct/normal electromagnetic energy, and that makes it a form of energy OUTSIDE of Quasars ability to control.
Originally posted by Desaad
Dr. Light HAS actually shown difficulty absorbing the Green Lantern energy, during Hal's run, and whats more has demonstrated the ability to absorb and control energies outside the electromag spectrum, including magical energies.So he's not a good example, really. The exact nature of the GL energy is totally up for grabs, but the emotional spectrum stuff seems to indicate that it's a form of psionic/soul energy, not direct/normal electromagnetic energy, and that makes it a form of energy OUTSIDE of Quasars ability to control.
I probably should have specified I was speaking on Hoshi, the female Dr. Light, not the rapist/supervillain Dr. Light, though I suppose, now that you mention it, he's an example as well.
There's also, most recently, Halo during Blackest Night.
There seems to be a precedent.
Originally posted by illadelph12
I probably should have specified I was speaking on Hoshi, the female Dr. Light, not the rapist/supervillain Dr. Light, though I suppose, now that you mention it, he's an example as well.There's also, most recently, Halo during Blackest Night.
There seems to be a precedent.
Halo definitely isn't limited to the electromag spectrum. That was the point of her appearance during Blackest Night -- that she could access the EMOTIONAL spectrum.
To say the Red 'fire' is electromagnetic spectrum energy, for instance, makes no sense, given the strange properties it has. It's obviously something far more esoteric.
So your saying that the point of her (Halo's) appearance was to establish that a character whose powers are completely EM based could also effect the emotional spectrum, which can also be interpreted as a sort of unified field theory, as well.
I can see that.
There's also the comment made by Dr. Stein that the Firestorm Matrix was part of the spark of life, or "White Light", as it were in Blackest Night, which would also allude to a unified field theory of sorts.
So yeah, I personally think the Quantum Bands should work without issue given the precedent.
Originally posted by Desaad
Halo definitely isn't limited to the electromag spectrum. That was the point of her appearance during Blackest Night -- that she could access the EMOTIONAL spectrum.To say the Red 'fire' is electromagnetic spectrum energy, for instance, makes no sense, given the strange properties it has. It's obviously something far more esoteric.
True. The energy from any ring corps seems much more esoteric than your basic EM spectrum.
Originally posted by Warlord
[B]re-reading some of my old books I've seen Quasar draining the energies of Adam Warlock (non EM based for sure)
They are, Adam is a male version of Kismet (Her). And Kismet's powers fall within the EM spectrum. Notice how he couldn't do jack vs the Soul Gem's blasts, because they are outside the EM spectrum.
and hold the whole Imperial Guard at bay (Gladiator included) with his constructs. Quasar had grown in power since the beginning off his series no mater what people wan to believe
Are you referring to the Operation Galactic Storm tie in? Because those were illusions. There were only 3 Imperial Guard there and Gladiator wasn't among them. It was Impulse, Magique, and Manta. Out of those three only Impulse has any kind of offensive energy power. Magique's only power is illusion casting and Manta's only note worthy power is her ability to blind people.
Originally posted by zopzop
They are, Adam is a male version of Kismet (Her). And Kismet's powers fall within the EM spectrum. Notice how he couldn't do jack vs the Soul Gem's blasts, because they are outside the EM spectrum.Are you referring to the Operation Galactic Storm tie in? Because those were illusions. There were only 3 Imperial Guard there and Gladiator wasn't among them. It was Impulse, Magique, and Manta. Out of those three only Impulse has any kind of offensive energy power. Magique's only power is illusion casting and Manta's only note worthy power is her ability to blind people.
yes I remember later in the fight when he used the gem he did beat him. But how are we sure that his energies are EM based?
Ah so the gladiator in this page was an illusion ok. my bad
Originally posted by Warlord
yes I remember later in the fight when he used the gem he did beat him. But how are we sure that his energies are EM based?
Wasn't Adam created by some guys (AIM or something I forgot the name), the same people that made Her (Kismet). Since Her's (Kismet) powers fall within the EM spectrum we can conclude Adam's do too.
Ah so the gladiator in this page was an illusion ok. my bad
Yup. What's even more confusing is, Impulse is the only one with any sort of offensive attack and he broke through Quasar's dome. How was that same dome able to hold off a group of heroes until Adam and Thanos busted through it?
We have on panel evidence of Thing, Thor, Impulse, Gladiator, etc.. breaking through his Quantum constructs vs one on panel scene of him holding off a group of heroes.
That's why I said that him holding off those heroes was PIS. Unless there's something later that backs this feat up that I'm not aware of?
Originally posted by zopzop
Wasn't Adam created by some guys (AIM or something I forgot the name), the same people that made Her (Kismet). Since Her's (Kismet) powers fall within the EM spectrum we can conclude Adam's do too.Yup. What's even more confusing is, Impulse is the only one with any sort of offensive attack and he broke through Quasar's dome. How was that same dome able to hold off a group of heroes until Adam and Thanos busted through it?
We have on panel evidence of Thing, Thor, Impulse, Gladiator, etc.. breaking through his Quantum constructs vs one on panel scene of him holding off a group of heroes.
That's why I said that him holding off those heroes was PIS. Unless there's something later that backs this feat up that I'm not aware of?
they were created by the concleave. how that supports they were EM based I cannot understand.
His construct durability fluctuates. You mention thor gladiator and thing. I can mention Galactus, the whole bunch of the Infinity Gauntlet story, a thermo-nuclear blast, some quantums and the freeking nega-bomb that KOed all the avengers in Galactic Storm. And finally the latest feat in Thanos Imperative
I don't dismiss his low showing. Just pointing out it's wrong to dismiss his high ones also
Originally posted by Warlord
they were created by the concleave. how that supports they were EM based I cannot understand.
He's the Male version of Kismet. It was stated on panel that her powers are within the EM spectrum by Quasar. Look at the image I linked to in this thread. It stands to reason that his energies must be within the EM spectrum because a) That's all the Q-bands have control over and b) Kismet's are (she's the female version of Adam).
His construct durability fluctuates. You mention thor gladiator and thing. I can mention Galactus, the whole bunch of the Infinity Gauntlet story, a thermo-nuclear blast, some quantums and the freeking nega-bomb that KOed all the avengers in Galactic Storm. And finally the latest feat in Thanos Imperative
That's an embarrassing showing for Galactus. But what Infinity Gauntlet stuff? What are you talking about specifically? What nuke blast and what about the nega-bomb?
Originally posted by zopzop
He's the Male version of Kismet. It was stated on panel that her powers are within the EM spectrum by Quasar. Look at the image I linked to in this thread. It stands to reason that his energies must be within the EM spectrum because a) That's all the Q-bands have control over and b) Kismet's are (she's the female version of Adam).That's an embarrassing showing for Galactus. But what Infinity Gauntlet stuff? What are you talking about specifically? What nuke blast and what about the nega-bomb?
heh I found an old file I got years back describing the "Quasar standard operating procedures" (lol) it does specify the EM spectrum to be the band's "forte". I'll leave it like this for the time being. I hope his new showings will change that.
well the G showing has happened whether we like it or not.
- Infinity Gauntlet: he creates a dome that stops Thor's hammer, Hulk, Herc and thing among others.
- Nega bomb: In galactic storm the nega bomb explodes KOing all the avengers but Quasar
- The thermonuclear incident was from an encounter with a watcher (can't remember issue - i could post the scan)
and there are the showings against the quantums (early years I think) and the recent ones. again, not meaning to say he is invulnerable. he's just better than you make him to seem
wait another one.
He absorbed Presence's energies IIRC.
http://marvel.wikia.com/Presence
Nuclear energy
Originally posted by illadelph12 Quasar did, however, use the Q-Bands to absorb Ego's life force and essence.
Ego, the living planet? When did this happen?
wait another one.
He absorbed Presence's energies IIRC.
http://marvel.wikia.com/PresenceNuclear energy
Nuclear energy/radiation is within the EM spectrum I believe.