Originally posted by Deadline
First of all I'm quite sure blindsided means that when the person attacks you can't see them coming. Thats not true because DS was looking straight at BT.http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/53838/1331023-deathstroke_vs_bronze_tiger_1_super.jpg
How can he be blindsided if DS is looking straight at him and there is a noise when the window smashes? You can argue he was suprised but there are several pages of him fighting when hes not suprised thats the point.
No "the point" was that this fight was SUPPOSED to prove something about Bronze Tiger and his fighting ability being > Steve.
The point becomes skewed when multitudes of other circumstances become involved that contribute to the fight beyond the two fighters themselves.
Now you may think that since Deathstroke turned his head towards BT immediately before being kicked in the face, that he wasn't blindsided, but that would make you wrong, AS USUAL.
Regardless of DS' ability to turn his head towards the sounds of a crashing window, he was CLEARLY not ready for the fight when it kicked off.
Bronze Tiger landed two blows that he otherwise would not have been guaranteed in a straight up confrontation.
That right there should tell you that this fight was nowhere near 100% proof of what a real fight between BT and DS would be.
Originally posted by Deadline
The reason why he was hurt was because BT kicked him in the chest. We then see BT holding his chest, therefore the reason why DS was hurt was because BT kicked him in the chest.He had time to recover and was healed by the time the fight started.
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Like I said, I'm talking to the guy who ignored the entire premise of the origins and endings arc, it makes sense that you would disard the same exact kind of context here.
No.... He wasn't holding his chest... I guess YOU could try and argue that, but it doesn't make any sense AS USUAL.
The panel you're reffering to (I think) has one hand hovering above his chest maybe, but he's not grabbing his chest in pain.
Lets look at the panels of the fight.
First attack lands flush in Deathstroke's face, BT's entire body weight and momentum being commited to the attack. The effects of the attack send DS towards the floor, THROUGH a desk and leaving him no recourse to counter.
Second attack BT lands is a spinning back kick, BT's body leaning away from the kick robbing him of his total power and the kick's actually landing under his pectorals. The effects of the attack send DS back the other way, but he's able to grab the kick before Tiger's brought the kick back to chamber, launching BT through the air for his troubles and engages in banter.
Third attack BT lands is a mule kick to Deathstroke's back sending DS sprawling forward arms flailing in the air.
SO: You think Deathstroke was holding his chest, which was why BT made the comment towards DS being hurt.... Great....
Except for the fact that Deathstroke was never hit IN the chest... at all. The only panel that COULD be misconstrued as Slade holding his chest has a single hand hovering over his pectoral major where BT never landed an attack.... AND even if you wanted to continue to argue that he was holding his chest due to being kicked in the ****ing solar plexus and we were going to throw you that bone..... it STILL wouldn't make any sense! I'm supposed to believe the attack that had the worst residual effects on Slade was the ONLY attack that he reacted to, countered, and talked back during? WHA?! Why wasn't he "holding" his face? Or his back?
Maybe because he wasn't holding anything in pain during that fight?
And again this nonsense about "well he had time to heal"... Deadline stop this trolling bullshit right now. You know VERY well how healing factors are typically depicted in comics. They get taxed, their user gets taxed. It's not some mystery or left up to open ended loads of debate.
Wilson flat out states that he's staggering his way into the museum..... So what's your take now?
He has a healing factor that can compensate for being shot, blown up, tortured, and gassed in a matter of hours with NO residual affects, BUT that he couldn't recover from several MA kicks even though he's wearing armor and would be worse off in a game of cat and mouse than BT even though DS has superhuman stats across the board and BT is bleeding?
Again, it makes no sense. Like....... AT ALL. 😐
Originally posted by Deadline
I'm not arguing that BT was trying to kill him, I'm arguing that if BT took him they would have killed DS. DS stated that:"I was set up the Government's got to know it."
Doesn't that indicate that he thought that the Government knew hes wasn't guilty?
"They don't want me alive."
Whose they? He's obvoulsy refering to the Government. The Govt want him dead as well and they know hes been set up.
"They were never going to let you take me in. They need me dead."
What people want BT to take DS in? The Govt so the 'they' is obvoulsy the Govt.
Look at 11 and 12
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BT: They wanted me to bring him in.
DS: Turner, you believe that, then you're the madman
Which is what DS was trying to say all along. The Govt did not want BT to bring him in alive, it was a front. The Govt knew he was set up as well and if was brought in a captured he would have got killed.
Deathstroke knew that he was in trouble with the government, that much is obvious. Which is why I stated that his presumptions were based on the people who were coming after him and how they were doing it.
It doesn't mean he was going all out on someone he respected and needed. He wasn't.
Just because he didn't want to be taken in doesn't mean he was doing everything he could to put Bronze Tiger down... Again, he was more occupied with trying to run away than to stand and fight.
Originally posted by Deadline
If you're going to be rude and insulting at least get my argument correct. Heres what I said.
Or it means that you're desperate.
It doesn't automatically dictate that DS was willing to seriously hurt Tiger, since y'know he tried to keep BT from serious harm... 😐
Say what you will, and I really don't care much about your personal vendetta, it isn't a good example of BT's prowess and that much is clear to nearly anyone who's read the book or even glanced at it really.
If you want to make arguments for his prowess in combat choose better examples than this one. As someone already mentioned, this fight's well contested from about 5 different positions now.
