Originally posted by King Castle
and Cap fought spiderman showing his extensive knowledge and most importantly his knowledge of pressure points after losing the shield. 😉
So what happened here?
Taskmaster Vs Captain America, he has Cap at his mercy until Cap uses some tech, admittedly, Cap doesn't have his shield in this fight-
Originally posted by Marvelknight
So what happened here?Taskmaster Vs Captain America, he has Cap at his mercy until Cap uses some tech, admittedly, Cap doesn't have his shield in this fight-
If you'd like to argue that BT could be a legitmate threat to an unarmed Cap, if he had an arsenal of weaponry and ambushed him then that is a different thread...
Originally posted by tkitna
Anybody else look at these scans and feel that Slade wasnt really threatened at all by Bronze Tiger?
Well Slade didn't just beat him down the way he did Batman. Funny when you think about it. Because Slade was trying to get away from the US government. Why fight when you just take little Bronze Tiger down, right?
And anyone who reads Deathstroke, can see that Bronze Tiger gave Slade more trouble than the JLA and Teen Titans. More trouble than any other has ever given him before.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
BT can certainly keep up for a while. He did fight Catseye who has quick ass reflexes and speed.
Five minutes of an even fight with back and forth, then Cap start to steadily pulls ahead as battle fatigue starts and reflexes begin to slow.
Did Catseye ever beat anyone or do anything significant? Because I only remember him losing to BT in Suicide Squad.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If you'd like to argue that BT could be a legitmate threat to an unarmed Cap, if he had an arsenal of weaponry and ambushed him then that is a different thread...
That sounds like you're making excuses now. Steve has the Super Solider Serum in him, no street leveler should out last Steve or be more skilled. Because he the most skilled fighter in Marvel, right? Oh sure Tasky has loads of weapon and he ambushed him. But isn't Steve a master tactician. Why not improvise, huh? I guest everybody has their bad days after all.
well in the scan TS ambushed him and had various weapons even then Cap was avoiding dodging till he finally manage to get the upperhand.
that is not synonymous with a h2h fight with a different fighter who doent have knowledge of the character's fighting skills or a mutant type ability of photo reflexive skillset.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
That sounds like you're making excuses now. Steve has the Super Solider Serum in him, no street leveler should out last Steve or be more skilled. Because he the most skilled fighter in Marvel, right? Oh sure Tasky has loads of weapon and he ambushed him. But isn't Steve a master tactician. Why not improvise, huh? I guest everybody has their bad days after all.
Improvise? You mean like purposely handicapping himself and holding back a trump card until he needed the most even though he could have used it the entire time?
And Taskmaster has catalogue of all the skills of Marvel's best fighters in his repitoire.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Do you even know what Taskmaster's power is?
Yes as in his name "TASK" master. Tony can perform any feat that he observes, perfectly without practicing. As long the feat doesn't require superhuman effort. He can also fast forward footage of Steve fighting and replicate it with limited superhuman speed. Anything else?
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Yes as in his name "TASK" master. Tony can perform any feat that he observes, perfectly without practicing. As long the feat doesn't require superhuman effort. He can also fast forward footage of Steve fighting and replicate it with limited superhuman speed. Anything else?
Are you also aware that he's made a point of studying Cap for years?
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Improvise? You mean like purposely handicapping himself and holding back a trump card until he needed the most even though he could have used it the entire time?And Taskmaster has catalogue of all the skills of Marvel's best fighters in his repitoire.
But didn't you say that Steve is the best in Marvel?? your words not mind. And now because Taskmaster knows all these styles, you're saying that Steve isn't skilled enough to fight him without any weapons?
Originally posted by King Castle
and didtnt you marvelknight earlier try to use Taskmaster to lowball Cap against cap & Ironman?the question now becomes to you believe BT could have done better or equal as cap in the same exact situation?
It wasn't used to lowball Steve at all. Some people feel that no street leveler can take h2h without PIS. So I use fight where Steve has not only his shield, but Iron Man there as well against one man. For the most skilled and unbeatable fighter that is Steve Rogers. That shouldn't have gone the way it did. But it did.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
So what you are implying is that Captain America can't beat or has a hard beating some one who fights the same exact way as himself? Bronze Tiger has done that in Suicide Squad #65
I'm "implying" that TM was armed, had studied Cap's fighting style for years and ambushed Cap, yet he still lost.
IOW, TM didn't outlast Cap, nor was he more skilled.
Originally posted by King Castle
but steve didnt fight Taskmaster strictly h2h at least Taskmaster was armed and there are a lot of human lvlers that shouldn't be able to beat cap in h2h.strictly h2h i dont see Taskmaster really winning against cap either way but that is for another discussion.
And you don't see the flaw in your reasoning? No character is infallible.
So
Elektra
Daredveil
Lady Shiva
Richard Drongon
Shang Chi
The Sensi
Iron Fist
Connor Hawke
Cassandra Cain
Batman
Bronze Tiger
Taskmaster
Deathstroke
Wildcat
Prometheus
Black Canary
Reene Montoya/Vic Sage
Pyslocke
Ogun (before his death)
Wolverine
None of these martial artist stand a chance h2h? Nobody can take Steve right? Nobody at all?
Well I rest my case. Because this is the most biased thing I ever heard. And if it were true, no moderator would let the thread be created since nobody has a chance h2h against Steve Rogers. 🙄