there are examples in his respect thread.
1. Kingpin tanked a softening blow from Red Skull used to try to get free from kingpin it failed.
2. Matt tried in costume to cripple Kingpin and use dirty tactics admitted by his own internal monologue by double flat kicking kingpin in the spine or back of the rib area part wasn't that clear. DD stated that Kingpin wasn't blubber and wasn't actually rock solid.
3. DD comes for revenge after kingpin and brings his Cane and viciously assaults kingpin on the bridge of the nose, temple and other sensitive areas kingpin tanked them all and beat Matt unconscious.
Originally posted by King Castle
there are examples in his respect thread.1. Kingpin tanked a [b]softening blow
from Red Skull used to try to get free from kingpin it failed.2. Matt tried in costume to cripple Kingpin and use dirty tactics admitted by his own internal monologue by double flat kicking kingpin in the spine or back of the rib area part wasn't that clear. DD stated that Kingpin wasn't blubber and wasn't actually rock solid.
3. DD comes for revenge after kingpin and brings his Cane and viciously assaults kingpin on the bridge of the nose, temple and other sensitive areas kingpin tanked them all and beat Matt unconscious. [/B]
But attacks like those are not the same like hitting someone in a certain area, then moments later their heart explodes. Not saying Batman has done it. But Batman has put down foes with a touch of the two finger only. Batman has also struck Wonder Wonder with a pressure point strike to her head and made her scream in pain releasing him.
Batman slapped her ears pushing air in and only recall him dong that during practice from behind...
Batman has used the vibrating palm or slight variation of the tiger blow. the thing is that Kingpin tanking ability is stated to be high due to his excess fat and rock like muscle plus classic kingpin also wore bullet proof vest.
an enraged Daredevil who is trying to kill and cripple Kingpin with precision pressure blows and failing shows Kingpins ability to tank said types of attacks.
if batman can hit him in the ears then it will only serve as a distraction blow not an incapacitation blow, all that buys batman is a few precious seconds that he would need to capitalize on and it's questionable if bat's would go for the heart stop trick or if he would get past kingpin's large frame and body fat/muscle his noted attributes.
Originally posted by King Castle
Batman slapped her ears pushing air in and only recall him dong that during practice from behind...Batman has used the vibrating palm or slight variation of the tiger blow. the thing is that Kingpin tanking ability is stated to be high due to his excess fat and rock like muscle plus classic kingpin also wore bullet proof vest.
an enraged Daredevil who is trying to kill and cripple Kingpin with precision pressure blows and failing shows Kingpins ability to tank said types of attacks.
if batman can hit him in the ears then it will only serve as a distraction blow not an incapacitation blow, all that buys batman is a few precious seconds that he would need to capitalize on and it's questionable if bat's would go for the heart stop trick or if he would get past kingpin's large frame and body fat/muscle his noted attributes.
1. I don't not think that Daredevil is as strong as Bruce. Bruce chops bricks in half with little effort, and dent steel.
2. No I'm not referring to a practice match between them. I'm talking about when Wonder Woman was possessed and started attacking her teammates.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Also I need to "see" prof that pressure point attacks do not work on Fisk.Masters like Shiva and Batman have been seen taking down opponents with considerable durability with pressure point attacks.
Because his whole body is encased in layers of fat over his insane layers of muscle.
The man is a genius and has created the perfect body to deal with pressure point fighters.
Originally posted by Marvelknightchopping bricks in half and denting steal has nothing to do with strength and everything to do with technique.
1. I don't not think that Daredevil is as strong as Bruce. Bruce chops bricks in half with little effort, and dent steel.
matt has lifted a four hundred pound barbell "as if it was 50" before and then used it to smack two guys around. show me a scan that puts bats at a definitively higher level.
Originally posted by Lord_Talron
chopping bricks in half and denting steal has nothing to do with strength and everything to do with technique.matt has lifted a four hundred pound barbell "as if it was 50" before and then used it to smack two guys around. show me a scan that puts bats at a definitively higher level.
Holding up the rubble from a collapsed building (for a short amount of time).
http://img111.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc192&image=b12_baton2.jpg
Holding up a 1000 lbs. ceiling.
http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc244&image=77c_bat1000.jpg
Benching over 1000 lbs.
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7829/bato1001iw7.jpg
Originally posted by Lord KMCAnd lets ignore fisk's countless victories over spiderman and daredevil. Both of whom of a good shot at beating batman.
Let's ignore Wayne's victories over extremely skilled people such as Kal, Solomon Grundy, Bane, Lady Shiva, Dick Grayson, Ra's Al Ghul, Talia, Diana, Oliver Queen etc. as well as the infamous stalemate with VAL ARMORR himself...Fisk ain't winning this 😬
You still have yet to prove he can beat kingpin. All you've said is "he beat this guy so that automatically means he beats fisk" which isn't the case.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
And lets ignore fisk's countless victories over spiderman and daredevil. Both of whom of a good shot at beating batman.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
You still have yet to prove he can beat kingpin. All you've said is "he beat this guy so that automatically means he beats fisk" which isn't the case.
Originally posted by Lord KMCNot really...at at...😐 is it a moot point.
Parker could defeat Wayne most of the time but Murdock would lose most of the time so moot point.I know Wayne would wreck Fisk because he's rocked multiple people the latter can't beat: Val, Dick, Diana, Cassandra, Shiva, Ra's, Oliver, Bane and of course; SOLOMON GRUNDY.
A weakened solomon grundy. Dick isn't that impressive. Neither is bane. And batman doing any sort of damage to diana is just plain wrong 😬.
Yeah Kingpin wins. More durable, stronger, and almost as fast, smart, and skilled.
