Originally posted by Robtard
Few things:-It's for you to prove it can. Not you get to say whatever improbable thing and then people have to dispel it or it's correct, just cos.
-An RPG is designed to take out barriers and light-armoured vehicles.
-An AT-AT is a heavily armoured war-machine from an advanced civilization.
-It took a fall to the face and then a snow-speeder's blaster fire to destroy one. (though as I said, it wasn't a neck shot).
So from that we know above, it's likely not happening, unless you can show that an RPG can at least replicate the damage of a snow-speeder's blaster fire, that for a start would be nice; you've avoided this 5-6 times now.
Just did, check the vid.
So a fall to the face somehow weakened the armor?
The AT AT falls at 1:15. You telling me that the armor somehow got weaker because of this? haermm
5:12. Look at how the neck rotates. The neck is not solid armor, dude. It might have separated plates, but no way in hell is it as strong as on the main body. And yes, in the vid, the laser bolts hit precisely on the neck.
That was at closer range than Rambo would have.
That was at horizontal angle.
It has to have the same power whilst going up, and also must hold it's accuracy over that greater range.
Also that wasnt ATAT armour.
Also an ATAT (OR the 501st) isn't letting Rambo waltz into comfortable strike range and to position himself and aim...its ridiculous.
When the shielded armour is in effect, no shot anywhere will work.
Also like Robtard notes, the neck was never shown to be hit at all.
So where youre trying to gimp its neck having ability from is beyond me.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
That was at closer range than Rambo would have.That was at horizontal angle.
It has to have the same power whilst going up, and also must hold it's accuracy over that greater range.Also that wasnt ATAT armour.
Also an ATAT (OR the 501st) isn't letting Rambo waltz into comfortable strike range and to position himself and aim...its ridiculous.
When the shielded armour is in effect, no shot anywhere will work.Also like Robtard notes, the neck was never shown to be hit at all.
So where youre trying to gimp its neck having ability from is beyond me.
Closer range? How far was the shooter, you figure?
Ahahahahaha nah, watch the vid, it was the neck that was hit.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
The way the shots of the blasters dispersed looked shielded.
Charged plating as shielding is not uncommon.PLUS it explains why the ATAT was vulnerable after its tumble, yet it was unstoppable before.
crylaugh Yeah, you got nothing. RPG to the neck works just fine here. Punches right through, just like it did that armored tank.
Nope, If highly concentrated energy weapons aren't doing it, then the idea of a bit of heat and concussion impacting near or against the armour is laughable in the extreme.
Show proof that the neck armour is vulnerable. We are still waiting.
All the evidence is against you.
I listed 5 or six reasons why that tank is an absolutely BS comparison.
You have no sane reply.
Which is natural, as you're wrong.
That wasnt a tank RJ. That was an APC. They are VERY lightly armored, designed to stop bullet impacts, a Barret AP round can penetrate it. That is a VERY far cry from a MBT. Before you start saying what something is, make sure you learn what it is. I may be wrong on the APC part, but if it isnt an APC its a BTR 60. In which case, same thing only with a bigger gun and lower troop capacity.
RJ, claymroes dont kill with the explosion. Small pieces of shrapnel/metal balls (hmm, what the armor was designed to stop maybe?) kill them by shredding their vital organs.
And i believe they are called tankbusters by terrorists/Russians, who happen to have lighter armor on their tanks so they are faster and better suited to their theater of war. An RPG against a T-72, it will knock it out, but not destroy it.
I cant remember the lastest T model, so i used the 72. The NATO forces have a history of using heavier armor than their Warsaw Pact counterparts.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Just did, check the vid.So a fall to the face somehow weakened the armor?
The AT AT falls at 1:15. You telling me that the armor somehow got weaker because of this? haermm
5:12. Look at how the neck rotates. The neck is not solid armor, dude. It might have separated plates, but no way in hell is it as strong as on the main body. And yes, in the vid, the laser bolts hit precisely on the neck.
That RPG is specifically designed to go through armour, as you notice the multi-part armament. Let me guess, Rambo has that one now? Lolz.
So now you have to show how an AT-AT is equal to or lesser than an armoured personal carrier.
The hit that destroyed it wasn't at the neck, told you this 3-4 times now.
Right before it explodes:
Hit is above the neck and on the body. Stands to reason the fall damaged it as shots before the fall did nothing.
Neck is not solid armour, still doesn't mean it's weak enough for an RPG to destroy it.
Originally posted by PwnedSo you think the AT AT neck, the flexible neck, is more armored than the vehicle that was shown in the vid?
That wasnt a tank RJ. That was an APC. They are VERY lightly armored, designed to stop bullet impacts, a Barret AP round can penetrate it. That is a VERY far cry from a MBT. Before you start saying what something is, make sure you learn what it is. I may be wrong on the APC part, but if it isnt an APC its a BTR 60. In which case, same thing only with a bigger gun and lower troop capacity.RJ, claymroes dont kill with the explosion. Small pieces of shrapnel/metal balls (hmm, what the armor was designed to stop maybe?) kill them by shredding their vital organs.
And i believe they are called tankbusters by terrorists/Russians, who happen to have lighter armor on their tanks so they are faster and better suited to their theater of war. An RPG against a T-72, it will knock it out, but not destroy it.
I cant remember the lastest T model, so i used the 72. The NATO forces have a history of using heavier armor than their Warsaw Pact counterparts.
Yeah. I think it is. A blaster is more powerful than a Barret M105 50 caliber rifle, yes? That can penetrate an APCs armor. I doubt it could penetrate the armor of an AT-AT, as its not steel. RPG-7 has 2 charges, a breaching charge, and an explosive warhead, thats how prretty much any anti armor weapon works nowadays. If a bullet can penetrate that armor, an RPG doesnt matter.
Show me a video of an RPG-7 taking out a MBT. T-72, M1A2 Abrams (not one of ANY being taken out in combat, ever) or hell even a M60A3.
The RPG-7 is pretty much the same as a M72 LAW rocket, anti emplacement. Do you know what that means or would you like an explanation?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Closer range? How far was the shooter, you figure?Ahahahahaha nah, watch the vid, it was the neck that was hit.
No where near the distance that Rambo would have to shoot at from the from the target's height from the ground + distance horizontally.
Moot point as the video show no neck shots.
So you're not 'pwned', 'double pwned', or even 'triple pwned'....
but 'Quasigoogleplex-ubergazillipwned'.
Originally posted by Robtard
That RPG is specifically designed to go through armour, as you notice the multi-part armament. Let me guess, Rambo has that one now? Lolz.So now you have to show how an AT-AT is equal to or lesser than an armoured personal carrier.
The hit that destroyed it wasn't at the neck, told you this 3-4 times now.
Right before it explodes:
Hit is above the neck and on the body. Stands to reason the fall damaged it as shots before the fall did nothing.Neck is not solid armour, still doesn't mean it's weak enough for an RPG to destroy it.
So what kind of RPG did Rambo have? Proof, not speculation.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girthhaermm If Rambo runs UNDER the AT AT, how's it gonna get him? It's slow moving, dude.
No where near the distance that Rambo would have to shoot at from the from the target's height from the ground + distance horizontally.Moot point as the video show no neck shots.
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So you're not 'pwned', 'double pwned', or even 'triple pwned'....
but [b]'Quasigoogleplex-ubergazillipwned'
Originally posted by PwnedHey, I'm all for explanations.
Yeah. I think it is. A blaster is more powerful than a Barret M105 50 caliber rifle, yes? That can penetrate an APCs armor. I doubt it could penetrate the armor of an AT-AT, as its not steel. RPG-7 has 2 charges, a breaching charge, and an explosive warhead, thats how prretty much any anti armor weapon works nowadays. If a bullet can penetrate that armor, an RPG doesnt matter.
Show me a video of an RPG-7 taking out a MBT. T-72, M1A2 Abrams (not one of ANY being taken out in combat, ever) or hell even a M60A3.
The RPG-7 is pretty much the same as a M72 LAW rocket, anti emplacement. Do you know what that means or would you like an explanation?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So what kind of RPG did Rambo have? Proof, not speculation.
What did he destroy with his RPG shot(s) in the films? Probably be a good indicator, or a video of him using one and we can try and figure it out.
I vaguely recall the the rocket being much smaller, like the common ones that pack about the explosive force to destroy vehicles. But a video/picture would be good.
Even pretending that Rambo has the specialized armour-penetrating kind, you'd still have to show that an AT-AT is equal to or weaker than a real APC.
11 pages and Rambo pulling a win is a far reach at best, should tell you something.
