Originally posted by bbrem123That's what I meant about match up 2, Hulk is fodder when you consider how easily Zeus pwnd him, imo even in a physical match up T2 would win Odin/Zeus can amp physicaly, just like Thanos amps his punches with cosmic energy and Hulk amps his strength etc
wasnt with just strength tho...all powers including team 2 wins...not sure about pure physical
you forget that Thanos and Hulk can also amp and are clearly the better h2h fighters than either of these guys. By the way.. is this regular hulk or wwh or another version as that would make a difference. If it's regular hulk team 2 would win. WWH I would put my money on Team 1 for the victory but beaten convincingly in fight no. 2
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
you forget that Thanos and Hulk can also amp and are clearly the better h2h fighters than either of these guys. By the way.. is this regular hulk or wwh or another version as that would make a difference. If it's regular hulk team 2 would win. WWH I would put my money on Team 1 for the victory but beaten convincingly in fight no. 2
So what if they can amp? I just told you that even when amping himself, Thanos couldn't even budge Odin's forearm. Unless you believe Hulk can surpass even the striking power of an amped Thanos?
Odin while weakened was tanking Skyfather level energy attacks that were placing the Destroyer in danger, Odin while weakened one shotted Ulik, Heimdall with a portion of the Odin Force was absolutely no selling full on Mjolnir blows to the face. Odin while weakened was literally breaking Masterson Thor.
If Odin were to channel the Odin Force into physical strength, he'd be knocking Thanos and the Hulk around like toys. Any other conclusion is fantasy. He'd beat both of them to death, whether it's Gray Hulk or World Breaker Hulk.
Clearly better at hand to hand? Neither has demonstrated enough skill for it to be any type of game changer as far as I know.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiOdin is a viking god. the Norse idea of heaven is drinking and brawling. How can you say that he has less impressive combat skills than Thanos or Hulk. It's practically all he's done for the last x amount of thousands of years. Fighting frost giants, other types of giants, the children of loki, various other pantheon threats. Zeus is nearly as bad with all the infighting in his group. Where the hell are you getting that Odin and Zeus have less h2h skills than Thanos and Hulk.
you forget that Thanos and Hulk can also amp and are clearly the better h2h fighters than either of these guys. By the way.. is this regular hulk or wwh or another version as that would make a difference. If it's regular hulk team 2 would win. WWH I would put my money on Team 1 for the victory but beaten convincingly in fight no. 2
That is not to say I think they would win if they aren't amped out the ass. Hulk has greater potential energy but Zeus and Odin can amp faster and can blitz on strength and speed before Hulk gets out of their reach physically. That said if Hulk goes into the fight shitpissed he'd take them both in CQC as he really doesn't have a practical limit to his strength and durability. That said I think Odin and Zeus take this if they knock out Hulk early in round one.
Round two is spite to many ways to stop Hulk before he ever gets close enough to smash.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusUnderstandable I'm just saying that by his powerset definition due to his power being based on an abstract concept. i.e. his anger his potential is theoretically limitless and quite capable of physically effecting abstract concepts through raw strength if writers wished to push him in that direction. Unless he's been fighting for a few days straight to amp his strength I doubt he could amp far enough to take on Odin and Zeus.
Hulk lacks the ability to amp to anywhere near Odin level under any reasonable circumstances or time.
Hulk simply doesn't have the capabilities of amping to Odin level even if you stuck him in a room with a video replaying the deaths of all of his friends for weeks on end.
Hulk at his angriest has probably jumped up in strength by maybe multiples of 10.
Not even close to the power he would need to present any challenge to Odin.
If we take such big leaps, might as well put him in a thread against the Living Tribunal.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusRage what is Odins best strength feat? Strength alone.
Hulk simply doesn't have the capabilities of amping to Odin level even if you stuck him in a room with a video replaying the deaths of all of his friends for weeks on end.Hulk at his angriest has probably jumped up in strength by maybe multiples of 10.
Not even close to the power he would need to present any challenge to Odin.
If we take such big leaps, might as well put him in a thread against the Living Tribunal.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusUlik isn't that impressive. And what do you mean by "breaking thor"? And how weakened.
Purely strength? One shotting Ulik while weakened. Breaking Thor while weakened. And he didn't even seem to be actively channeling the Odin Force into strength.If he were to use the Odin Force to directly amp his physical strength, he'd put his fist through Hulk's face effortlessly.
I'm not saying the skyfathers don't win i'm just trying to get a feel for what strength feats they have.