@Rage
Sure Odin/Zeus could put his fist through Hulk's face with ease but it would just heal back. Pure H2H no other exotic powers, with Odin/Zeus amping his physical strength, of course he'd dominate Hulk. But Hulk's PIS healing factor would just kick in and repair the damage.
He'd basically be Odin/Zeus's self repairing punching bag.
Even current Hulk would be put down by a fist through the face.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Ulik isn't that impressive. And what do you mean by "breaking thor"? And how weakened.I'm not saying the skyfathers don't win i'm just trying to get a feel for what strength feats they have.
Still a class 100. He was severely weakened in both instances.
IIRC, he was breaking bones, and Masterson was moments away from dying until he transformed.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusfactors of ten... So despite this hulk being the strongest of the hulks and having one of the biggest strength jumps i.e. WB event he still only increases strength by factors of ten... Traditional hulk incarnations start at around a hundred tons and in a matter of moments he's capable of lifting a huge mountain crushing down on multiple superheroes. I think your hulk scale is a little off there.
Hulk simply doesn't have the capabilities of amping to Odin level even if you stuck him in a room with a video replaying the deaths of all of his friends for weeks on end.Hulk at his angriest has probably jumped up in strength by maybe multiples of 10.
Not even close to the power he would need to present any challenge to Odin.
If we take such big leaps, might as well put him in a thread against the Living Tribunal.
Originally posted by Uriel005
factors of ten... So despite this hulk being the strongest of the hulks and having one of the biggest strength jumps i.e. WB event he still only increases strength by factors of ten... Traditional hulk incarnations start at around a hundred tons and in a matter of moments he's capable of lifting a huge mountain crushing down on multiple superheroes. I think your hulk scale is a little off there.
Yes, factors of ten.
You're example from Secret Wars is a little off. He never lifted the mountain. Using leverage, he was able to support the part of a mountain.
no, when hulk is "calm" (as calm as it is possible for the hulk to be before transformation occurs), you can see a set level of strength.
green scar was calm and seemingly stronger than an enraged savage hulk, or at least on par with the latter
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympushulk was calm, and the incarnation of that hulk was a weaker version than savage since banner was too dominant, in fact reed had to trick him into getting enraged enough to access more power.
Yes, factors of ten.You're example from Secret Wars is a little off. He never lifted the mountain. Using leverage, he was able to support the part of a mountain.
and catching a mass of 150,000,000,000 out of the blue is nothing to sneeze at for a calm, banner-hulk
Team 1 wins in the fist fight. Hulk takes care of either odin or zeus while thanos stalemate and then hulk tells thanos to sit down while taking on the other. When he is done with him, he literally one shot thanos for listening to him when he told him to sit down.
Fight 2... the skyfather in a STOMP.
This shit is going to get out of hand eventually.
Marvel's lack of an editorial system in the last decade has really turned things into the Hulk's favor.
The Hulk at his core is the adolescent need to be stronger than everyone else. Without anyone telling the writers that this is stupid, or this shouldn't fly, the writers who gravitate towards the Hulk such as Pak/Loeb etc. just go wild.
It kind of sucks that Thor's actually a worthwhile character battle board wise. Any writer who actually gets the character has no interest in having him beat the Hulk. There's a far better chance of Thor beating the shit out of a guy who beat the Hulk in an all out last stand than there is Thor defeating the Hulk as a result.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
hulk was calm, and the incarnation of that hulk was a weaker version than savage since banner was too dominant, in fact reed had to trick him into getting enraged enough to access more power.and catching a mass of 150,000,000,000 out of the blue is nothing to sneeze at for a calm, banner-hulk
He had a harder time accessing the anger=strength factor true, but I thought he operated at a higher base as a result? It's been a while.
That's not what happened.
sure it is
people keep perpetuating this base strength thing like it means something in a fight.
just take a second and look at the word "base", it means the lowest level of power a hulk has that can be quantified, other than that his strength can be anything.
he's only base when he's picking flowers or some shit, but then again base current/ww hulk is at least as strong as enraged savage hulk while calm.