Thanos & Hulk Vs Odin & Zeus

Originally posted by psycho gundam
sure it is

people keep perpetuating this base strength thing like it means something in a fight.

just take a second and look at the word "base", it means the lowest level of power a hulk has that can be quantified, other than that his strength can be anything.

he's only base when he's picking flowers or some shit, but then again base current/ww hulk is at least as strong as enraged savage hulk while calm.

Not really. It happened on the cover, but not in the issue.

It doesn't because if they need him to, the writer has Hulk start out higher in one issue than in another. But what's your point? I never claimed it would matter in this fight.

I think Odin would outright over power the Hulk and beat him to death with his own torn limbs.

Calm rage. PAD tried to make sense of World War Hulk by introducing it in the one shout Prelude to World War Hulk.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This shit is going to get out of hand eventually.

Marvel's lack of an editorial system in the last decade has really turned things into the Hulk's favor.

The Hulk at his core is the adolescent need to be stronger than everyone else. Without anyone telling the writers that this is stupid, or this shouldn't fly, the writers who gravitate towards the Hulk such as Pak/Loeb etc. just go wild.

It kind of sucks that Thor's actually a worthwhile character battle board wise. Any writer who actually gets the character has no interest in having him beat the Hulk. There's a far better chance of Thor beating the shit out of a guy who beat the Hulk in an all out last stand than there is Thor defeating the Hulk as a result.

He had a harder time accessing the anger=strength factor true, but I thought he operated at a higher base as a result? It's been a while.

That's not what happened.

What's wrong with tuning things in the favor of hulk. He is basically doing what his powers are suppose to be doing... being a physical beast. His stremgth has no limit and his healing factor matches his strength so why not have him physically harming skyfathers? I don't understand.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not really. It happened on the cover, but not in the issue.

It doesn't because if they need him to, the writer has Hulk start out higher in one issue than in another. But what's your point? I never claimed it would matter in this fight.

I think Odin would outright over power the Hulk and beat him to death with his own torn limbs.

Calm rage. PAD tried to make sense of World War Hulk by introducing it in the one shout Prelude to World War Hulk.

What?

Originally posted by carver9
What's wrong with tuning things in the favor of hulk. He is basically doing what his powers are suppose to be doing... being a physical beast. His stremgth has no limit and his healing factor matches his strength so why not have him physically harming skyfathers? I don't understand.

My point is, that in the current off hand editorial system, stories suffer. You have stupid fanboyish shit written into issues for no real reason than because. And the Hulk by his very nature, attracts writers and fans who want stupid fanboyish shit more so than say Thor from what I've seen.

And this isn't just me be b*tching. I've talked to multiple writers, and they've pointed out how stupid this crap is.

If it wasn't for old school editors like Breevort, the Hulk would have no doubt overpowered Mjolnir's enchantment by now. Why? Because random writer thinks it looks cool.

No knock against the character, I'm also a fan, but don't be surprised if one day some Thor writer who happens to be a fanboy gets an opportunity to write a comic, and has Thor overpower the Hulk in a contest of strength.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
My point is, that in the current off hand editorial system, stories suffer. You have stupid fanboyish shit written into issues for no real reason than because. And the Hulk by his very nature, attracts writers and fans who want stupid fanboyish shit more so than say Thor from what I've seen.

If it wasn't for old school editors like Breevort, the Hulk would have no doubt overpowered Mjolnir's enchantment by now. Why? Because random writer thinks it looks cool.

i stop buying a lot of marvel books due to the poor attempt to keep within comic continuity and comic logic of marvel made it even worse when i read an interview with joe quisadilla and his editorial comment about any publicity is good publicity and he isnt bothered by fans

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

If it wasn't for old school editors like Breevort, the Hulk would have no doubt overpowered Mjolnir's enchantment by now.

Quick question Rage, why is Hulk overpowering Mjolnir's enchantments wrong?

Originally posted by zopzop
Quick question Rage, why is Hulk overpowering Mjolnir's enchantments wrong?

Originally posted by zopzop
Quick question Rage, why is Hulk overpowering Mjolnir's enchantments wrong?

Originally posted by King Castle
are you serious? 😑

Hell yeah I am. I mean you have high heralds and skyfathers outperforming abstractions feat wise. Why is it so hard to imagine a being like the Hulk overpowering a Skyfather's enchantment?

facepalm x2

You people realize that high heralds through skyfathers have feats that dwarf abstractions right?

Superman saved the OMNIVERSE, two Mjolnirs clanging against each other shook all reality, Odin and Seth fighting rocked the multiverse.

Very few if ANY abstractions can lay claim to such on panel feats of power. For God's sake, Eternity was thanking Pym for saving him from Chthon, a freaking Elder God. Hell freaking Nightmare has comatosed Eternity before.

Is the power difference between World Breaker Hulk and Odin greater than the power gap between Chthon and/or Nightmare and Eternity? If no, why does Hulk overcoming Odin's enchantment sound so preposterous?

facepalm x3

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
facepalm x3

You realize you were just complaining about editors dropping the ball and producing crap storylines in Marvel in this very thread.

What's more crappy :

A being who is said to possess infinite strength potential overpowering the enchantment of a skyfather.

Or an Elder God or Dream Demon threatening the existence of supposedly the supreme abstract of 616 reality?

And the hits just keep on coming.

facepalm x4

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And the hits just keep on coming.

facepalm x4

So basically you're all for PIS/CIS when it involves Thor and crew but against it when it's anyone else?

you got him there

combo breaker

facepalm x6

His got nothing. It would take a total of 3 minutes to point out the idiocy in the last 5 of his posts. Unfortunately Spartacus is on, and its so blatant, that facepalms are sufficient responses.

I saw the hulk 622 preview and knew that this was coming. This is what happens when you let enough former dc writers into Marvel.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
facepalm x6

His got nothing. It would take a total of 3 minutes to point out the idiocy in the last 5 of his posts. Unfortunately Spartacus is on, and its so blatant, that facepalms are sufficient responses.

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