Originally posted by zopzop
You people realize that high heralds through skyfathers have feats that dwarf abstractions right?Superman saved the OMNIVERSE, two Mjolnirs clanging against each other shook all reality, Odin and Seth fighting rocked the multiverse.
Very few if ANY abstractions can lay claim to such on panel feats of power. For God's sake, Eternity was thanking Pym for saving him from Chthon, a freaking Elder God. Hell freaking Nightmare has comatosed Eternity before.
Is the power difference between World Breaker Hulk and Odin greater than the power gap between Chthon and/or Nightmare and Eternity? If no, why does Hulk overcoming Odin's enchantment sound so preposterous?
Good post.
Originally posted by zopzopBecause that would imply that hulk raw strength would be greater then a power that destroy galaxies make pocket universe and shake the muiltverse does that sound right to you?????
Hell yeah I am. I mean you have high heralds and skyfathers outperforming abstractions feat wise. Why is it so hard to imagine a being like the Hulk overpowering a Skyfather's enchantment?
Originally posted by dmills
I thought it was the same hulk wwh/wb. This was all brought about when Banner became WB Hulk again. People here -as usual- just kinda read what they wanted to and now the myth of "the new current Hulk" was born.Unless I missed something of course.
This is exactly what it is. Banner accepted the power of the hulk and is currently at (or above) his wwh levels again.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Because that would imply that hulk raw strength would be greater then a power that destroy galaxies make pocket universe and shake the muiltverse does that sound right to you?????
Yes it does, because I'm of the opinion Odin or any other Skyfather has no business busting galaxies, shaking the multiverse, or creating dimensions.
Like I said in my previous post, Top Tier Abstractions haven't been shown doing half that crap, yet Earth centric Skyfathers are?
If you are gonna complain that a character who for the last 30+ years was said to have infinite strength potential can't overpower an enchantment from a skyfather because that would be PIS. Then at least be consistent with your outrage and say Skyfathers shouldn't be able to pull half the stunts they do when the Cosmic Hierarchy hasn't been shown being able to.
I can list example after example of pure unadulterated PIS involving High Heralds up to Skyfathers. There's a thread called "Highest Feats" or something check it out.
A month or so ago, a poster joked that Surfer had better feats/showings than his god d@mn master and creator Galactus. That's the sorry state of affairs storylines are in now.
Originally posted by zopzopthe enchantment bonds the hammer to the earth itself, so hulk is lifting the hammer and earth....but pushing against the earth all the while attempting to lift it.
If you are gonna complain that a character who for the last 30+ years was said to have infinite strength potential can't overpower an enchantment from a skyfather because that would be PIS.