Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI'm just saying that Odin tends to pull shenanigans I don't see beings like eternity pulling when it suits him. Honestly I'm all for a re-evaluation of the abstract tier in comparison to skyfather.
Skyfathers in general don't have any notable feats. It's Odin who has high end feats. And I don't think any of them are above his "station".
Odin has been at galactic levels since his creation. It's not his fault the Abstracts can't step up their game.
I don't really much care about other Skyfathers to be honest. Just specify Odin as being a fair bit above regular Skyfathers and that's that.
His most impressive feat was turning back the Celestial Axis (Time) like a month ago. Seemed like a nice feat.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI know Odin is the premier skyfather but i'm not sure he would fall into the Elder God column.
Odin has been at galactic levels since his creation. It's not his fault the Abstracts can't step up their game.I don't really much care about other Skyfathers to be honest. Just specify Odin as being a fair bit above regular Skyfathers and that's that.
His most impressive feat was turning back the Celestial Axis (Time) like a month ago. Seemed like a nice feat.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Heh. Okay, then.Say word? If it's so laughable, care to disprove the stance? With actual evidence. You do know what that is, right?
I think he has a point. Odin has more showings and the Norse gods are more popular therefore people can assume that Zeus is weaker. However if I was pushed I think Odin could be slightly more powerful. It kinda seems to me Thor is slightly tougher than Hercules. Also Asagardians are more combat orientated than Olympians
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Heh. Okay, then.Say word? If it's so laughable, care to disprove the stance? With actual evidence. You do know what that is, right?
Question to you Rage... Does Marvel consider Odin and Zeus to be equals?
Second questions... Who has more appearances Odin or Zeus? Next Part.. Thus who has more feats?
Do you honestly follow the notion that more feats equal superiority?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Question to you Rage... Does Marvel consider Odin and Zeus to be equals?Second questions... Who has more appearances Odin or Zeus? Next Part.. Thus who has more feats?
Do you honestly follow the notion that more feats equal superiority?
In power? No evidence exists to supports them being equal outside of that description of power levels Thor gave I'm pretty sure. Of course, I've seen Odin described as the most powerful God currently in handbooks. Either way, only secondary evidence.
Odin. That's a fallacious line of reasoning. Zeus has appeared plenty of times by this point for this argument to be invalid. He doesn't have anything under his belt as impressive as casually owning Death God level beings in battle as far I can think of right now.
It depends on the situation. Common sense should always be included in these decisions. But anyway you try and spin it, Odin comes off as more powerful. His ability to access far more power alone would put him above Zeus, Galactic level feats included or not.
Accessingg the Full Odin Force > Full power Odin > Base Odin >/= Zeus
That's how the hierarchy goes based on what I've seen.
Odin clearly has far more appearances. Not arguing that.
But at this point, having only one feat under your belt that surpasses one of Odin's lowest feats (Death God ownage) means that Zeus needs to step his game up.
And arguing that current Marvel tones down Gods won't work. Last month Odin turned back the Celestial Axis (Time) in First Thunder.
By the way, a great deal of Odin's appearances are him just sitting on a throne, or talking. Excluding those would cut that number by more than half. Thor comics are mainly Thor comics.
Feats aren't the be all end all as we all know. But they most definitely play a role in comparing characters.
Originally posted by janus77BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 🤣
Team 1 annihilate Team 2 in a physical match. Thanos is enough to keep Odin busy for a while, letting Hulk dominate and exhaust Zeus and then going 2 on 1 against Odin, who isn't beating Thanos too quickly.Hulk is pretty much capable of unleashing far greater physical power than any of them.
Originally posted by Deadline
I think he has a point. Odin has more showings and the Norse gods are more popular therefore people can assume that Zeus is weaker. However if I was pushed I think Odin could be slightly more powerful. It kinda seems to me Thor is slightly tougher than Hercules. Also Asagardians are more combat orientated than Olympians
I don't think this will be the dynamic for much longer.
Pak clearly prefers the Greek pantheon and Zeus has been getting more frequent appearances these past few years than he used to and Herc laid claim to be being the strongest 'skyfather' in history during Chaos War.
And Asgardians aren't any more combat oriented than Olympians. What martial arts have Asgardians created? Hercules can lay claim to Pankration at least, basically a mix of wrestling, jointlocks, and striking. Old school MMA.
Average Olypian vs Average Asgardian in a h2h fight, favor the Olympian slightly.
Originally posted by iceman24567The thing is that I don't even consider Banner to be herald level. Never have. He just doesn't have the powerset.
janus is quan level at this point he would probably still argue that Hulk could physically beat the skyfathers which includes Thanos. No matter which scenario Hulk is the weaklink replace him with any Herald level character and they also would be the weaklink sans maybe classic Juggs 😬