Thanos & Hulk Vs Odin & Zeus

Originally posted by zopzop
Now I know you're either stupid or trolling :
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861727333/ravage.html
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?search=ravage&lextype=2

Here's two that fit my meaning from the first results after a search:

http://www.google.ca/dictionary?q=ravage&langpair=en|en&hl=en&sa=X&ei=m0xPTc_aCMragQf8-eH4Dw&ved=0CB0QmwMoAA

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ravaged

IE, extensive damage, cause havok on, stuff like that.
Hard to argue it completely destroyed the solar systems though with debris and planets floating around, and the meaning (in your link anyway) going from damaging, to completely wreck.

Either way, arguing semantics over it won't help on something so irrelevant. I mean, at least you admitted you were wrong on an important detail, so there's a step in the right direction.
It wasn't "MANY" like you thought. It was solar systems in the immediate vicinity getting damaged (or completely destroyed if you have you way... even though there were rocks and planets errywhere).

Trolling would be arguing that skyfather's have better feats than abstracts though and acting like it means something.

Originally posted by zopzop
The entire universe : stars, planets, galaxies just twisted into nothing and reformed with Thanos victorious. I mean he only attacked the being that represents the universe and all 🙄

Just because Eternity got defeated and not destroyed or killed, that doesn't mean that the universe had to wink out and be recreated... holy super assumption!

Originally posted by zopzop
I inserted a word that wasn't there but it was clearly implied multiple solar systems were destroyed. You don't even know what the word : ravage means. So ...

Even if I didn't know what a word meant, at least I didn't lie. I'd rather be stupid than a low down liar. I'd rather be stupid than stupid and a liar as well... but that's neither here nor there...

Originally posted by zopzop
f it was JUST the narration mentioning once you'd have a point. But then other characters basically said "all reality is in danger of dying" or something similar. The writers couldn't have made it more clear.

Regarding the IG affair, It was shown on panel that the fight only affected 616 reality. The Gems have since been retconned into only working in the universe they are native too. So unless you can prove otherwise STFU.

Way to dodge the question.
I asked you a pretty standard question too, your opinion on what you make of the IG having a smaller scope than Odin's battle with Seth, and you went off tangent about the scope of it.
So, I'll simply ask again and see what you say...
Does this mean that the IG is lower in power level than Odin (or Seth)?

Originally posted by zopzop
Thanos was toying with them. The majority of their individual assualts were laughable after they attacked him simultaneously. I mean, see for example what Love/Hate, Kronos, and the two Celestials were doing.

Originally posted by zopzop
I'm not doing jack sxxt since I'd basically be wasting my time enlightening your ignorance. It's right there in his respect thread if you don't want to take the time to look it over, it's not my problem Odin is a confirmed galaxy buster since at least the 1970s.

Wasting your time? I'm sure lying doesn't waste your time...
Like, if I have to download a couple comics just to prove some of your idiotic statements wrong, I at least except you to go over to a respect thread and copy and paste a scan or two. You have time to go argue through multiple threads about tiny details, yet you can't bring a scan from the respect thread over here?
You know what is your problem though? The burden of proof.

"I'm ready to argue some small details here, and then I'll go argue some details in this thread... hell, I might even have time to go try to deconstruct every post in this thread, BUT, I am NOT going to get a scan from that God Damned thread!"

Concession accepted though.

Whoops, I adressed your point too much. I should edit all that out and only respond, or somewhat respond to things I feel like responding to. Cut out some pieces of text, all that jazz.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I'm curious as to how long it took you to find the one definition that kind of supports your notion. Especially when you have to go to the MSN Encarta to find it. I like how the Thesaurus fits the 'destroyed' definition better though.

Here's two that fit my meaning from the first results after a search:

http://www.google.ca/dictionary?q=ravage&langpair=en|en&hl=en&sa=X&ei=m0xPTc_aCMragQf8-eH4Dw&ved=0CB0QmwMoAA

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ravaged

IE, extensive damage, cause havok on, stuff like that.
Hard to argue it completely destroyed the solar systems though with debris and planets floating around, and the meaning (in your link anyway) going from damaging, to completely wreck.

Either way, arguing semantics over it won't help on something so irrelevant. I mean, at least you admitted you were wrong on an important detail, so there's a step in the right direction.
It wasn't "MANY" like you thought. It was solar systems in the immediate vicinity getting damaged (or completely destroyed if you have you way... even though there were rocks and planets errywhere).

LOL from your own god damn link :

rav·age Noun /ˈravij/ listen
Synonyms:

* verb: devastate, destroy, ruin, waste, havoc, desolate

rav·age (rvj)
v. rav·aged, rav·ag·ing, rav·ages
v.tr.
1. To bring heavy destruction on; devastate: A tornado ravaged the town.
2. To pillage; sack: Enemy soldiers ravaged the village.
v.intr.
To wreak destruction.
n.
1. The act or practice of pillaging, destroying, or devastating.
2. Grievous damage; havoc: the ravages of disease.

So you are trolling me. It said solar systemS were ravaged. PLURAL.

Trolling would be arguing that skyfather's have better feats than abstracts though and acting like it means something.

But they do.

That same effect was used for almost everything in that issue... it just meant to show power waves and to cover up the battle.
Right, assumptions. I thought I said assumptions weren't proof? So you thought to prove me wrong by using an assumption... is what I'm getting here?

Just because Eternity got defeated and not destroyed or killed, that doesn't mean that the universe had to wink out and be recreated... holy super assumption!

It warped/winked out because Thanos took Eternity's place, as he was displacing Eternity's role in the universe that's when the warp/winking happened.

You inserted a word that wasn't there? So... you lied?
Even if I didn't know what a word meant, at least I didn't lie. I'd rather be stupid than a low down liar. I'd rather be stupid than stupid and a liar as well... but that's neither here nor there...

No troll, I didn't quote it exactly and mistakenly inserted the word many. The scan clearly states multiple solar systemS were ravaged.

And you're not stupid, just an annoying troll.

Ya bro, Dr Strange is proof enough to accept it (he's the only one who mentioned multiverse), but the only narration and only the third person to ever see a battle isn't proof. Double standard much?

Dr. Strange, the Surfer, Jean Grey and the narrator. Wtf more do you want? The writer to pen you a letter explaining it in more detail?

Way to dodge the question.
I asked you a pretty standard question too, your opinion on what you make of the IG having a smaller scope than Odin's battle with Seth, and you went off tangent about the scope of it.
So, I'll simply ask again and see what you say...
Does this mean that the IG is lower in power level than Odin (or Seth)?

BUT HE DIDN'T BUST GALAXIES!!!
He still contributed to the attacks though. Hell, he even lashed out at all of them when Death and Mephisto attacked in anger.
Maybe the next 20 times I say it, you'll begin to understand.

If going by the events of IG saga only? Yes compared to the Odin/Seth fight in '97 the IG saga was smaller in scope.

On panel : Seth/Odin shook the multiverse, rocked galaxies, ignited long dead stars, and threatened all reality with destruction.

Ignorance is arguing Skyfather's feats > Abstracts. Ignorance is misquoting everything you try to quote.

Then name some feats abstractions have done that surpass skyfathers? Speaking of ignorance, learn what words mean then get back to me.

Wasting your time? I'm sure lying doesn't waste your time...
Like, if I have to download a couple comics just to prove some of your idiotic statements wrong, I at least except you to go over to a respect thread and copy and paste a scan or two. You have time to go argue through multiple threads about tiny details, yet you can't bring a scan from the respect thread over here?
You know what is your problem though? The burden of proof.

"I'm ready to argue some small details here, and then I'll go argue some details in this thread... hell, I might even have time to go try to deconstruct every post in this thread, BUT, I am NOT going to get a scan from that God Damned thread!"

Concession accepted though.

What concession, you haven't been right on anything yet and you proved you don't even know what the word ravaged means despite the fact that your own links confirm my information and recollection of the events in that comic.

The scans are there, you don't want to bother looking? Too bad.

1. Team 2 wins, although Hulk is obviously physically unmatched, the combined might of two patriarchal gods just plain outdoes him and Thanos.

2. I'm also going with team 2 for this one, for obvious reasons.

2) is pure spite sir. Odin would solo the both of them let alone adding in Zues. Even TI Thanos would be trapped in a bubble with hulk and there is not a damn thing either of them could do about it.

Hulk claps and pantheons fall. g_hulk

Originally posted by Badabing
Hulk claps and pantheons fall. g_hulk

Check out the latest issue of Incredible Hulk. It actually looks like he goes toe to toe with Zeus.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=7698&disp=table

Special thanks to roughrider for the link.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Do you have an issue number?

As far as I know concerning the "destroy the universe 10 times over" it's a forum legend, I've seen it in some old threads from 2006, but never with a scan attached. However if it exist I think Bentley (working his way through all 655 issues with Galactus) will find it.

Originally posted by zopzop
You people realize that high heralds through skyfathers have feats that dwarf abstractions right?

Superman saved the OMNIVERSE, two Mjolnirs clanging against each other shook all reality, Odin and Seth fighting rocked the multiverse.

Very few if ANY abstractions can lay claim to such on panel feats of power. For God's sake, Eternity was thanking Pym for saving him from Chthon, a freaking Elder God. Hell freaking Nightmare has comatosed Eternity before.

Is the power difference between World Breaker Hulk and Odin greater than the power gap between Chthon and/or Nightmare and Eternity? If no, why does Hulk overcoming Odin's enchantment sound so preposterous?

OMG NOT AGAIN WITH THIS SHIT

When are people going to realize Zop's error and stop arguing with him about it? It's a pointless endeavor. He feels that Odin and Seth have greater feats than the LT and thus this actually means a damn thing. Isn't that all that really needs to be said on the matter...

Originally posted by zopzop
Check out the latest issue of Incredible Hulk. It actually looks like he goes toe to toe with Zeus.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=7698&disp=table

Special thanks to roughrider for the link.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
When are people going to realize Zop's error and stop arguing with him about it? It's a pointless endeavor. He feels that Odin and Seth have greater feats than the LT and thus this actually means a damn thing. Isn't that all that really needs to be said on the matter...

One last time, so even terminally stupid people like you can understand it :

Skyfaters have better ON PANEL FEATS than almost any abstraction

But in terms of IMPLIED POWER the abstractions > skyfathers.

You're a clown. Just like in this thread you bring up stupid points which aren't even close to being true... Even if they were... what exactly is your point? You talked about Herald Lvlers having better feats than Skyfathers.. not true.. but even if so who cares.. who know skyfathers troucne heralds. Just like we know Abstracts trounce skyfathers. By the way moron.. please show me a skyfather.. sealing off a universe totally from another..

Originally posted by zopzop
One last time, so even terminally stupid people like you can understand it :

Skyfaters have better ON PANEL FEATS than almost any abstraction

But in terms of IMPLIED POWER the abstractions > skyfathers.

As for the thread team 2.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're a clown. Just like in this thread you bring up stupid points which aren't even close to being true... Even if they were... what exactly is your point? You talked about Herald Lvlers having better feats than Skyfathers.. not true.. but even if so who cares.. who know skyfathers troucne heralds. Just like we know Abstracts trounce skyfathers. By the way moron.. please show me a skyfather.. sealing off a universe totally from another..

Yeah right after I show you that abstract running for his life from Korvac. And his "ultimate judgment" was making a star go nova and Korvac STILL lived.

The Odinforce has created a dimension and populated it with it's own gods! I didn't believe it myself till Rage and others pointed it out.

Go drown yourself moron.

And I said High Heralds through Skyfathers have better on panel feats than most abstracts, but then again reading and reading comprehension weren't your strong points.

zopzop, if you don't stop you'll get a warning.

Originally posted by Badabing
zopzop, if you don't stop you'll get a warning.

I'm done with this thread it's just causing more headaches than it's worth.

I'm assuming that KuRuPT Thanosi will get a warning too for calling me a clown and a moron? I'm was just responding in kind to his insults.

Originally posted by zopzop
I'm done with this thread it's just causing more headaches than it's worth.

I'm assuming that KuRuPT Thanosi will get a warning too for calling me a clown and a moron? I'm was just responding in kind to his insults.

By all means make this an issue and we'll have to see things to a conclusion.

Now, back to the thread topic please. 😉

Skyfathers tend to have feats beyond their station or at least beyond what something below abstract should be able to do. As far as I'm aware beyond being a universe Eternity has had no hand in the creation of another so... yeah.

Skyfathers in general don't have any notable feats. It's Odin who has high end feats. And I don't think any of them are above his "station".