Zeus vs Hulk/Superman... fist fight

Originally posted by Sirius77
So you brought like what? Five characters and counting into this thread that had nothing to do with it and then throw a fit when I bring up one of the characters that belongs in the thread?

I never said that they couldn't be tagged. I said that with PIS off, it would be difficult for them to be tagged. How did I change my argument?

Lol, you quoted me Carver.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t545719.html

You responded to my comment about superman's superiority to the hulk... as if he wasn't on team 2...

Also, why did you quote me and then address Cosmic lol?

Well, I have no reason to debate against you about this subject since we basically agree with each other about them being tagged.

I don't think that Glads nor Supes could withstand what Hulk went through in that fight.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
No. Genius.

It's not a combat feat. Nor did I say it was. It doesn't have to be.

It's a demonstration of non-linear movement that is logically *TRANSLATABLE* to combat speed. Slow bags like Hulk or Thor have never demonstrated being capable of something like this.

Not to get off topic.Hulk has never demonstrated an ability to rebuild a city at superspeed.But he can destroy a city if he wants to 😄 .Thor on the other hand has demonstrated the ability to become a blur which demonstrates superspeed while helping rebuild Asgard.Scans by ODG.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed14267.jpg

As for this topic.I can see Zeus schooling both Hulk and Superman even in hand to hand.As a Skyfather, he has Omniscience(seems this is standard for Skyfathers) which would negate Superman's speed advantage.So Zeus FTW.

the omniscence thing is really just another word for cosmic awareness, its not true omniscience, and yes i think zeus can amp his speed with lightning

Originally posted by carver9
I don't think that Glads nor Supes could withstand what Hulk went through in that fight. [/B]

Originally posted by FanBoy101
Why..? Hulk's durability its bad, the only reason the guy aint dead its because his super healing factor, thats all... 😕

Hulk has amazing durablility... he isn't as hard as Thor and Supes but his healing factor makes up for that which imo puts him above them.

Its hard to keep him down because his healing factor is at a constant rate whereas others are hard pressed to even survive half of what Hulk went through in that battle.

I agree, against piercing damage, I would give the egde to Supes and Thor but against blunt force, naah... hulk would just keep coming.

I already gave example of why I think Hulk could take more damage.

Blunt Force Damage Durability

Thor, Supes>>Hulk

Originally posted by King Castle
Blunt Force Damage Durability

Thor, Supes>>Hulk

And this is where we disagree.

I can't see hulk getting one shotted by Despero and I think Hulk would have done better against the doom destroyer than Thor did.

An amped Rulk punch>anything that Despero did in his entire fight and hulk tanked it. Rulk punch was so powerful that it completely nuked the entire area.

Originally posted by King Castle
Blunt Force Damage Durability

Thor, Supes>>Hulk

Originally posted by FanBoy101
Where is Juggernaut?... 😠

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ mods, handle that

Originally posted by carver9
And this is where we disagree.

I can't see hulk getting one shotted by Despero and I think Hulk would have done better against the doom destroyer than Thor did.

the Hulk's been taken down by Spiderman, by Captain America, a python, a rubber hose, gas, and a tank. He's been one-shot by Thor. Not trying to low ball, but just saying, I can see him getting one-shotted by Despero quite easily.

As for this thread, Zeus wins.

Originally posted by FanBoy101
Where is Juggernaut?... 😠

supes, Thor>>Hulk>Jugg

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
the Hulk's been taken down by Spiderman, by Captain America, a python, a rubber hose, gas, and a tank. He's been one-shot by Thor. Not trying to low ball, but just saying, I can see him getting one-shotted by Despero quite easily.

As for this thread, Zeus wins.

Again, your argument can go both ways with EVERYONE mentioned in this thread.

As for hulk, do you have any tkos besides the tko that he received from Zeus to help your argument? He has been amped after everything that you've named. This is a different hulk, a far more powerful hulk.

Show me some recent tkos.

Originally posted by King Castle
classic would have but now

supes, Thor>>Hulk>Jugg

Originally posted by carver9
Again, your argument can go both ways with EVERYONE mentioned in this thread.

As for hulk, do you have any tkos besides the tko that he received from Zeus to help your argument? He has been amped after everything that you've named. This is a different hulk, a far more powerful hulk.

Show me some recent tkos.

The Red hulk killed the Hulk. But I'm just pointing out that Hulk has had enough low showings to make me think that its not out of the realm of possibility that Despero one shots him. And Despero is a pretty powerful character.

But in terms of Superman's durability vs the Hulk...Superman has done much better against skyfather level characters than the Hulk did against Zeus.

Also, Superman has shrugged off punches that shatter space/time like here

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/019kl9me.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/retconpunch.jpg

He's endured without too much trouble part of an explosion equal to FIFTY supernovas while WEAKENED like here.

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/DURABILITY/18eh0.jpg

Compare that to the Hulk's flesh being burnt off by X-ray. Or being taken out by Vector. Neither of which is a low showing, as those guys are pretty powerful in their own right. He's been slashed up by Wolverine. In terms of durability, Superman >>>> Hulk.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
In terms of durability, Superman >>>> Hulk. [/B]

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
The Red hulk killed the Hulk. But I'm just pointing out that Hulk has had enough low showings to make me think that its not out of the realm of possibility that Despero one shots him. And Despero is a pretty powerful character.

But in terms of Superman's durability vs the Hulk...Superman has done much better against skyfather level characters than the Hulk did against Zeus.

Also, Superman has shrugged off punches that shatter space/time like here

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/019kl9me.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/CRAZY%20FEATS/retconpunch.jpg

He's endured without too much trouble part of an explosion equal to FIFTY supernovas while WEAKENED like here.

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/Superman/DURABILITY/18eh0.jpg

Compare that to the Hulk's flesh being burnt off by X-ray. Or being taken out by Vector. Neither of which is a low showing, as those guys are pretty powerful in their own right. He's been slashed up by Wolverine. In terms of durability, Superman >>>> Hulk.

Ok, what is it that you don't get about current hulk being more powerful than savage hulk? Why are you still bringing up savage hulk feats? Rulk did ko SAVAGE hulk but he got stomped by current BANNER\WWH hulk. Show me some recent feats from wwh not classic hulk. CURRENT hulk is amped to his wwh levels.

So are you telling me that kc superman is skyfather level? Is this what you are saying? Show me something to suggest that CURRENT HULK can get one shotted by despero. You have a lot of fights to choose from, even the zom strange or zeus fight.

By the way, him being slashed up by woly isn't a blunt force trama feat.

What exactly has wwh done that makes you think he's so much more powerful? Superman has fought many characters as powerful as Zeus, and he's almost always done much better than the Hulk did against Zeus. And current Rulk is a lot weaker than rulk when he had his energy draining ability, but people have still claimed Rulk is still more powerful than Green hulk (Thor, and Wolverine had said as much).

I'd like to see current Hulk taking an explosion equal to 50 supernovas while weakened. Has he done anything to suggest he could survive that?

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
What exactly has wwh done that makes you think he's so much more powerful? Superman has fought many characters as powerful as Zeus, and he's almost always done much better than the Hulk did against Zeus. And current Rulk is a lot weaker than rulk when he had his energy draining ability, but people have still claimed Rulk is still more powerful than Green hulk (Thor, and Wolverine had said as much).

I'd like to see current Hulk taking an explosion equal to 50 supernovas while weakened. Has he done anything to suggest he could survive that?

Besides what have basically been stated on panel about him being far more powerful than his previous counterparts, basically wwh/current hulk was a threat to marvel earth. That alone makes me believe that he was on another level.

What characters has Supes fought that is on Zeus level? The only ones I can think of that is anywhere close to Zeus physically is despero and titus.

Rulk fought hulk when he had his absorption ability. Hell, he absorbed hulk gamma power and punched the hulk so hard that it nuked the entire area.

Hyperion survived a sun going super nova, Gladiator survived a solar system destroying blast, doctor strange survived attacks from galactus, rulk survived attacks from an angry galactus and each and every last one of them fell to hulks fist, so I don't get your point about 50 super novas. Was he in the heart of this blast because if I remember, he only felt the shockwaves of the explosion.