Zeus vs 8th Day Juggernaut

Originally posted by Galan007
Allowing Juggy to use an ability that he simply DOES NOT use any more, and hasn't used in roughly 20 years dosn't make any sense to me. And IF Bada allows it, then I'm very curious to know why.

Agreed. I'd wager there's more instances where he doesn't use the force field than there are where he does.

Originally posted by Galan007
Heh. I literally JUST read that issue.

I just did too. Thor came out looking really good in that issue. 🙂

Originally posted by Starscream M
I get your reasoning...but we have to explore why he doesn't use it.

I think he doesn't use it because its too haxx of a power for him, he's basically unbeatable when he uses it unless against someone who can negate it magically.

Originally posted by Galan007
Agreed. But when ability hasn't been used for around 20 years, is it not logical to assume that it simply isn't part of said character's 'standard' powerset any longer?

why don't we all wait for Bada to rule on this matter... 🙂

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I just did too. Thor came out looking really good in that issue. 🙂

Originally posted by FanBoy101
Juggy had exotic powers too, but they were taken away and its on paper, so onless you can prove that Juggernaut has lost this ability then he stills have it...

...And Juggy's other exotic abilities (spell casting, and such) were never formally taken away that I know of -- they just haven't been referenced since. Kind of like his FF.

Originally posted by Galan007
Juggy's other exotic abilities (spell casting, and such) were never formally taken away that I know of -- they just haven't been referenced since.

can you imagine? how formidable Juggernout could be with all of his powers used at the same time? 😱

the rules state that flash uses his full powerset from the get-go unless specified otherwise. dont make me quote the rules

Originally posted by FanBoy101
they were takan away by Oblivion, since he could not keep Juggernaut's Rant for ever he made a deal with him, He had to lose those powers so he could come back to earth... 😎

Originally posted by FanBoy101
they were takan away by Oblivion, since he could not keep Juggernaut's Rant for ever he made a deal with him, He had to lose those powers so he could come back to earth... 😎

huh? where'd this happen?

mhmm It's been a while. I do remember Beast depowering Juggernaut by removing his helmet or something similarly silly. However, a loss of powers is not something I remember but like I said, it's been a while.

Originally posted by Galan007
Scans or issue #?

will provide issue number later... 😄

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thanks. Like I said, I don't think 8th day Juggernaut was above regular Juggernaut. Even in the Thor tie in where he was apparently amped a few times, Thor held his own for too long.

Ok rage, I think I need to help you out on a couple of things... if you don't think 8tth day jugs by the end of the book would outright kill Thor then you are crazy... I know you love thor just like I love the character as well but Jugs was busting through dimensions and time streams with ease.

On your scan... you do know that Juggernaut soloed the exemplers and won right? He did work that thor and hercules couldn't accomplish so your scan was pointless.

Originally posted by FanBoy101

will provide issue number later... 😄

That's from Doctor Strange #182. IIRC, Eternity banished Nightmare and Juggernaut to Oblivion. I don't recall any power loss.

Originally posted by carver9
Ok rage, I think I need to help you out on a couple of things... if you don't think 8tth day jugs by the end of the book would outright kill Thor then you are crazy... I know you love thor just like I love the character as well but Jugs was busting through dimensions and time streams with ease.

On your scan... you do know that Juggernaut soloed the exemplers and won right? He did work that thor and hercules couldn't accomplish so your scan was pointless.

😂 Oh Carver, I like you, but just stop. You're talking about the Juggernaut when the dark side of the Trion entity possessed him which is a completely different event from the 8th Day thing. And the incarnation is overrated. Breaking through dimensional is something Thor could do.

I'm pretty sure that did not happen. IIRC, he defeated like two or three by taking them on in a gauntlet fashion.

Galan?

8th Day Juggy did NOT bust through dimensions. That was Trion Juggy.

Originally posted by FanBoy101

will provide issue number later... 😄

uh... what's that got to do with oblivion like you said? 😕

Originally posted by carver9
On your scan... you do know that Juggernaut soloed the exemplers and won right? He did work that thor and hercules couldn't accomplish so your scan was pointless.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
...last but not least.

Juggernaut takes out the majority of the Exemplars solo:

Originally posted by Galan007
8th Day Juggy did NOT bust through dimensions. That was Trion Juggy.

I thought trion was the 80 ft tall version...

That was jugs that was basically heading to become trion.

Originally posted by carver9
I thought trion was the 80 ft tall version...

That was jugs that was basically heading to become trion.

he was huge. AND he punched through dimensions.

Originally posted by FanBoy101
yes...

Like I said, he took out Decay, Conquest, and Carnivore in a gauntlet like fashion after cheap shotting Bedlam and Stone Cutter.

Thor could do the same without a doubt.