Zeus vs 8th Day Juggernaut

From what I seen, Juggernaut has used quick silver like super speed at least 4 times his entire career and that should be enough to prove that he is fast. As for his force field, when has he ever needed to use it? He only used it during the times where there was a need and just like ptr said, jugs rarely if ever have any appearances so the limited ones he does have, if he have shown an ability att least 3 time, it should be acceptable.

To my knowlegde, he did not throw mystical attacks out but only twice his entire career and that was due to outside interference. That's different than him actually using his forcefield when he needs to.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
I wouldn't call on that in a vs. fight to give him favor over the other, or even use those abilities in any vs. thread.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
As far as his force field being up in those situations, I'd say it definitely wasn't. He does have to willingly 'turn' the force field on though. As far as comic book explanations, I'd say he was thinking about using it in those situations. But it more on the part of progressing the story and/or the writer not knowing about it. I think if it were indeed on, those stories would definitely have ended differently.

Anyhow, I asked that question because as the above scan clearly shows, if you can physically touch Juggy, his FF is NOT on. Thus any time his helmet has been removed (which is usually how he's beaten), his FF wasn't being utilized.

I'm not arguing why the FF has only been referenced once in the last 20 years. I'm only stating my opinion that it doesn't seem right to allow him to use such a scarcely referenced ability in any thread that he's involved in (unless 'classic' Juggy is specified) -- it just isn't something he does, and his 'losses' tend to show it.

I was under the impression this was Classic Juggernaut, but up to 8th Day levels?

I was under the impression this was simply 8th Day Juggy, per the OP..?

Well 8th Day Juggs is basically Classic Juggernaut drawing on more power.

Yeah, but 8th Day Juggy didn't utilize a FF on panel -- and at that time, Juggy as a character hadn't used a FF in about 8 years.

That's been my argument this whole time.

I'd still say he has the option to use the force field. It could have been one of those cases where the writer didn't remember/know about it or, to a lesser extent, he just flat out didn't need it.

Originally posted by carver9
Juggernaut wins this BUT I just thought about something, juggernaut isn't immune to magic and zeus magical charged punches could take its toll.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

now Picture him using his FF... 😉 I don't think Zeus will be braking Juggernauts ribs... 😉

and IF Zeus manage to hurt him, I am sure his Healing Factor would keep him in the fight

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

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Originally posted by Galan007
there are still quite a few exotic abilities he utilized 1-2 times in his career that haven't been referenced since , Since they've never been formally retconned, would you say they are still part of his regular powerset? Meaning: should they be used as evidence in any Juggernaut-related thread, iyo?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
[B]Here the Juggernaut demonstrates he isn't just some slow, lumbering oaf. He can be fast if he wants to be:

and here even Depowered he still has SuperSpeed(Not superMan type speed ofcourse)

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin

here he is using Mater Manipulation...

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

Does he use ALL of his tricks at once?..NO he aparently don't seem to need to, but that my friends don't make them go away as some of you guys wish... 😮‍💨

the craziness about Juggernaut,the character is above a Skyfather level being,hum,yeah,right..........

Originally posted by Devron87
the craziness about Juggernaut,the character is above a Skyfather level being,hum,yeah,right..........

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
I'd still say he has the option to use the force field.

He wouldn't be fighting 'in character' at that point.

Originally posted by FanBoy101
Yes..

Here his is using SuperSpeed in his past

and here even Depowered he still has SuperSpeed(Not superMan type speed ofcourse)

here he is using Mater Manipulation...

Originally posted by Galan007
IAs I said, there are various exotic abilities he has used once or twice in his career -- but doesn't used frequently enough to warrant them being part of his default powerset.

do you think this feat by X-man is impressive ?

what do you think about 8th Day Juggernaut doing the same?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
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"Your power was never greater than mine! Especially not now that I know that I am a God!"

I say Juggernaut is able to have all of his abilities in a Forum fight... 😮‍💨

Originally posted by FanBoy101
I think you are mistaken...

do you think this feat by X-man is impressive ?

what do you think about 8th Day Juggernaut doing the same?

I say Juggernaut is able to have all of his abilities in a Forum fight... 😮‍💨

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Here's the WHOLE page the cropped panel you posted above is from:

It looks like Juggy certainly had some help there.... Never rely on cropped scans. 😉

Originally posted by Galan007
Give me a break.

Originally posted by Galan007
What are you trying to say? That Juggy is a telepath of the same order as Charles and Nate? You think him using an ability once or twice in his career means that it's 'in character' for him to use it in every forum battle? Give me a break.

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Here's the WHOLE page the cropped panel you posted above is from:

It looks like Juggy certainly had some help there.... Never rely on cropped scans. 😉

Wasnt that the storyarc with eight avatars? That little guy in the right was the avatar of like telepathy... And juggernaught was like strength...

Did someone just try to doctor a scan to get it to say what they wanted...

Originally posted by rotiart
Did someone just try to doctor a scan to get it to say what they wanted...

Juggernaut will be using his ForceField in this battle... 😮‍💨

Originally posted by rotiart
Wasnt that the storyarc with eight avatars? That little guy in the right was the avatar of like telepathy... And juggernaught was like strength...

Did someone just try to doctor a scan to get it to say what they wanted...

And yes, someone definitely tried to doctor a scan in Juggy's favor.

Originally posted by FanBoy101
Juggernaut will be using his ForceField in this battle... 😮‍💨

Why would 8th day need his force field when he fought and tanked attacks from someone who has damaged gods?

Originally posted by Galan007
If he never used it on panel, why would it even be a possibility here?

He wouldn't be fighting 'in character' at that point.

Because, 8th Day Juggernaut is still Classic Juggernaut. The only difference is that his is under some kind of mind control the basically orders him to compete in the wager set up by the Octesense(sp?). Just because we didn't see him will his armor on during the 8th Day doesn't mean he does not have that ability. The shield is pretty much always mentioned as part of his powerset. So unlike those other obscure abilities, this one stays with him in some comics and almost all bios.