Originally posted by 753
just caught that, you simply post very little compared to most here. No dice on the second statement though. I do find you come up with a lot of opinions not based on much though, like the one in this thread.
Beast is a joke in melee...he only has one good showin in his history and thats when he went feral during the Danger arc...IIRC..people tend to think that by taking CIS off that characters will automatically become a powerhouse which is incorrect. If I gave you superhuman attributes, lets say 2-5 ton range...and i had only olympic level attributes, but i was an accomplished MAer...id whoop your ass, simply because im more skilled...its really common sense
i only post in the comic and sig forum...everything else is irrelevant
and i base my opinions...off my opinions bucko
Originally posted by Sin I AM
If I gave you superhuman attributes, lets say 2-5 ton range...and i had only olympic level attributes, but i was an accomplished MAer...id whoop your ass, simply because im more skilled...its really common sense
not really
skill can do a lot, but in real fights, like in the real world, skill can only do so much against power
there are some exceptions, but not really, even stuff like akiedo can only make up for so much strength. Someone with 2-5 ton strength would annihilate you
This isn't true in comics, but in comics, Eastern Martial Arts are treated as if they are a super power
Originally posted by inimalist
not reallyskill can do a lot, but in real fights, like in the real world, skill can only do so much against power
there are some exceptions, but not really, even stuff like akiedo can only make up for so much strength. Someone with 2-5 ton strength would annihilate you
This isn't true in comics, but in comics, Eastern Martial Arts are treated as if they are a super power
hmmmmmmmmm...i respect your opinion but i disagree completely. I still think i will defeat the average joe with olympic level stats... remember im the pinnacle human training
a well trained 120 pound woman would have severe trouble with a 250 pound man, regardless of fighting style, so long as the man is competent enough not to fall over themselves. Unless you are saying the stronger fighter tires more easily or is restricted in mobility by body mass, it really isn't much of a contest, so long as we are going by "real world" standards.
This is without even considering how dense someone with 2-5 ton strength's body would be. The olympic level athlete would be hard pressed to move the person, and their strikes would hardly do any damage.
you can disagree all you want /shrug
real world weight and mass is very important but not as important as combat mindset and by that i mean willingness to outright kill and maim rather then play punch for punch game. that many ppl in life thing is a real fight which is not.
if a 120- 30 lb woman grips and rips the throat it doesnt matter how big the other person is if he/she is simply tryin to pummel for a ko while the other is eye gouging knee breaking etc etc
Originally posted by inimalist
a well trained 120 pound woman would have severe trouble with a 250 pound man, regardless of fighting style, so long as the man is competent enough not to fall over themselves. Unless you are saying the stronger fighter tires more easily or is restricted in mobility by body mass, it really isn't much of a contest, so long as we are going by "real world" standards.This is without even considering how dense someone with 2-5 ton strength's body would be. The olympic level athlete would be hard pressed to move the person, and their strikes would hardly do any damage.
you can disagree all you want /shrug
im an well trained (only weigh 125) mixed martial arts practioner...and i ALWAYS challenge guys larger than myself in the Marine Corps and in the Army, and ive only lost two fights, and that was simply because they were beter fighters...i usually use larger guys weight and height against them, plus im faster and more agile
Originally posted by King Castle
if a 120- 30 lb woman grips and rips the throat it doesnt matter how big the other person is if he/she is simply tryin to pummel for a ko while the other is eye gouging knee breaking etc etc
yes, but provided the person being attacked isn't incompetent, their power advantage is going to make this type of thing difficult at least
though I agree, a MA that attempts to maim like those in the military would be way more effective than any of the flashy stuff
Originally posted by inimalistit depends on whether the women has a weapon or not
a well trained 120 pound woman would have severe trouble with a 250 pound man, regardless of fighting style, so long as the man is competent enough not to fall over themselves. Unless you are saying the stronger fighter tires more easily or is restricted in mobility by body mass, it really isn't much of a contest, so long as we are going by "real world" standards.This is without even considering how dense someone with 2-5 ton strength's body would be. The olympic level athlete would be hard pressed to move the person, and their strikes would hardly do any damage.
you can disagree all you want /shrug
a trained 90 pound women his sharp blades is more deadly than a 250 pound ufc fighter
Originally posted by Sin I AM
im an well trained (only weigh 125) mixed martial arts practioner...and i ALWAYS challenge guys larger than myself in the Marine Corps and in the Army, and ive only lost two fights, and that was simply because they were beter fighters...i usually use larger guys weight and height against them, plus im faster and more agile
that actually proves my point
you use larger guys to practice on because they are a challenge
I'd also suspect sparring doesn't well represent a real fight
Originally posted by Starscream M
it depends on whether the women has a weapon or nota trained 90 pound women his sharp blades is more deadly than a 250 pound ufc fighter
oh, for sure
the only real point I'm making is that, once you get into unnatural human strength levels, such as 2-5 ton strength, skill is going to do very little in winning that fight in a real world situation
an infant with a gun can take out a 400 pound samurai ninja
Originally posted by Sin I AMDarlin that's b/c you never fought me when in the service.
im an well trained (only weigh 125) mixed martial arts practioner...and i ALWAYS challenge guys larger than myself in the Marine Corps and in the Army, and ive only lost two fights, and that was simply because they were beter fighters...i usually use larger guys weight and height against them, plus im faster and more agile
i dont play around even with women, i break them down with a quickness.... you know the guys you beat were tan belts wet behind the ears boots.. the vets you did fight you know they held back at least enough due to you being a female... b/c i have, you have too b/c the amount of pressure needed to apply on a 225 gym rat is different then the the female you are tryin to put an a lock without breaking a bone
Originally posted by inimalistreal fighter would be more effective then your MMA cage fighters
yes, but provided the person being attacked isn't incompetent, their power advantage is going to make this type of thing difficult at leastthough I agree, a MA that attempts to maim like those in the military would be way more effective than any of the flashy stuff
Originally posted by King Castle
Darlin that's b/c you never fought me when in the service.i dont play around even with women, i break them down with a quickness.... you know the guys you beat were tan belts wt behind the ears boots.. the vets you did fight you know they held back at least enough due to you being a female... b/c i have you have too b/c the amount of pressure needed to apply on a 225 gym rat is different then the the female you are tryin to put an a lock without breaking a bone
I was under the assumption that the proper application of military MAs ended up with broken bones and physically incapacitated opponents
like, its like Krav Maga, not really a "sparring" style, because you can't use it effectively if you aren't trying to injure your opponent? or am i wrong?