Originally posted by the ninjak
True a SLASH or a BITE is nothing compared to a punishing blunt strike to the head or stomach.
Originally posted by the ninjak
He smashed Logan into a roof. And Logan could do nothing upon landing but say "You Beast!".
and he was trying to get him out of a depression......when wolverine fought beast for real he ended him in a single pannel.......
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
This is untrue. For healers, slashing is much worse, then blunt trauma. Because unlike with blunt trauma, the healer need to replenish what has been lost (blood), while with blunt force trauma, they only need to repair whats broken which reacquires less energy.
I'm not so sure about it. Sure, you lose some blood, but at the same time a lot more area is damaged, a slash is a simpler wound.
I would think a slash would heal faster, but requires a bit more energy, while a smash would heal slower, but when it is healed there's less lasting effect.
Originally posted by Q99
I'm not so sure about it. Sure, you lose some blood, but at the same time a lot more area is damaged, a slash is a simpler wound.I would think a slash would heal faster, but requires a bit more energy, while a smash would heal slower, but when it is healed there's less lasting effect.
That never seems to be the case at all. Slashing is more damaging becuase of the blood loss. Blunt force is far less dangerous to a healer then piercing damage. especially when the blunt force is coming from someone with beast punching power.
Originally posted by the ninjak
My original post gave X23 the fight.If you guys can give the scans of Logan easily defeating Hank in a later issue than Astonishing then I'm happy.
I honestly dont care if you agree or not, Your arguements have been ignorant to sya the least.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Simple truth is X23 can't touch Hank. If Hank doesn't want her to.
He'd dodge some hits without a doubt, but saying he'd avoid everything is just downplaying Laura.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Bleeding out is the best way to deal with wolverine like healers. There a reason why all of his rouges pretty much carry bladed weapons. Blunt force is not a good way to try and bring someone like wolverine or x down unless they posses vast superhuman strength which beast does not.That never seems to be the case at all. Slashing is more damaging becuase of the blood loss. Blunt force is far less dangerous to a healer then piercing damage. especially when the blunt force is coming from someone with beast punching power.
Surely that differs between X-23 and Logan though?
Not with Beast, but say someone like Spiderman, his punches to Logan do limited damage b/c of Wolvie's skeleton, but to Laura Spidy punches could potentially break bones with every hit (I guess, not holding back Spidey or someone else in his strength bracket), and the extra tissue/organ damage caused by broken bones could be far more of a hinderence than a slash (although depends on the slash I guess)
Anyway, X-23 ftw in both scenarios
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Not with Beast, but say someone like Spiderman, his punches to Logan do limited damage b/c of Wolvie's skeleton, but to Laura Spidy punches could potentially break bones with every hit (I guess, not holding back Spidey or someone else in his strength bracket), and the extra tissue/organ damage caused by broken bones could be far more of a hinderence than a slash (although depends on the slash I guess)
the difference for me is that for Spider-man, his str, speed, agility, skills and precog make it reasonable to think he might dmg Laura enough for the KO before she got a killshot. I don't see that as the case for beast
beast gets wrecked by spiderman in all of those categories though
Originally posted by inimalist
the difference for me is that for Spider-man, his str, speed, agility, skills and precog make it reasonable to think he might dmg Laura enough for the KO before she got a killshot. I don't see that as the case for beastbeast gets wrecked by spiderman in all of those categories though
I agree, plus the fact that Spiderman is a much better h2h combatant than Beast, seeing as he's basically always involved in h2h fights whereas Beast hasn't really been a fighter in X books for a few years.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
I agree, plus the fact that Spiderman is a much better h2h combatant than Beast, seeing as he's basically always involved in h2h fights whereas Beast hasn't really been a fighter in X books for a few years.
see, it fits his character really well though
Beast was not only always smart, but of all the X-Men, he was the most diplomatic, the most energetic to work with humanity for the betterment of both humans and mutants alike. I really like that part of him, and I would way rather him stay as a less fight, more "peacemaker" type of position
but ya, in terms of forum vs, he doesn't deserve to be put up against top tier fighters, his powers really dont help him much
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Surely that differs between X-23 and Logan though?Not with Beast, but say someone like Spiderman, his punches to Logan do limited damage b/c of Wolvie's skeleton, but to Laura Spidy punches could potentially break bones with every hit (I guess, not holding back Spidey or someone else in his strength bracket), and the extra tissue/organ damage caused by broken bones could be far more of a hinderence than a slash (although depends on the slash I guess)
Anyway, X-23 ftw in both scenarios