Originally posted by Impediment
Where is this stated? I recall no such statement.
It is not stated, but it is depicted.
Instances:
- Adamantium Bullet through Logan's Adamantium skull
- Stryker ordering Deadpool to decapitate Logan (you'll have to assume Stryker knew it was viable given he could be considered the pioneer of manipulating Adamantium.
Of course its bad writing though given we know it shouldn't have happened based on all other portrayals of Wolverine and adamantium. Even in X2, Stryker describes the alloy as "virtually indestructible", which is at odds with what happens in Origins.
Originally posted by PlacidityWhen was he shot in the head with an adamantium bullet?
It is not stated, but it is depicted.Instances:
- Adamantium Bullet through Logan's Adamantium skull
- Stryker ordering Deadpool to decapitate Logan (you'll have to assume Stryker knew it was viable given he could be considered the pioneer of manipulating Adamantium.
Of course its bad writing though given we know it shouldn't have happened based on all other portrayals of Wolverine and adamantium. Even in X2, Stryker describes the alloy as "virtually indestructible", which is at odds with what happens in Origins.
Originally posted by Impediment
Vibranium/adamantium alloy is far stonger than adamantium by itself, correct?
I wouldn't say far stronger.
I would say that the shield is also a vibranium-steel alloy.
Granted, that alloy was later the foundation for the creation of adamantium. That's why some refer to Cap's shield as "proto-adamantium" but it isn't really adamantium.
Captain's shield has been destroyed/shattered multiple times. To my recollection, adamantium has never been shattered like Cap's shield. There was that one time with the Hulk and that other time with Thor...but I was scolded by others and told it was secondary adamantium because of later revelations (douchy rewriting, IMO).
So, based on feats, Cap's shield would be weaker. Based on 616 statements, Cap's shield is the most durable substance known.
Vibranium is the only known substance to be stronger than adamantium. Caps shield is made of an iron vibranium alloy. There is no way that Wolverine is piercing or slicing through caps shield.
The only things to destroy or damage caps shield have been, Silver surfers board, dr doom when he stole beyonders powers, the infinity guantlet, thors hammer and i forget the last one, but theese are all things that would destroy or damage adamantium as well. These are powers on a celestial level.
Having said all of that...,Wolverine murders Cap. Cap could easily knock Wolverine out but he's not killing him...,ever.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Vibranium is the only known substance to be stronger than adamantium. Caps shield is made of an iron vibranium alloy. There is no way that Wolverine is piercing or slicing through caps shield.The only things to destroy or damage caps shield have been, Silver surfers board, dr doom when he stole beyonders powers, the infinity guantlet, thors hammer and i forget the last one, but theese are all things that would destroy or damage adamantium as well. These are powers on a celestial level.
Having said all of that...,Wolverine murders Cap. Cap could easily knock Wolverine out but he's not killing him...,ever.
Nope, not allowed to count those...although they can damage caps shield it's not been stated in the movies that those things can damage caps shield
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Vibranium is the only known substance to be stronger than adamantium. Caps shield is made of an iron vibranium alloy. There is no way that Wolverine is piercing or slicing through caps shield.The only things to destroy or damage caps shield have been, Silver surfers board, dr doom when he stole beyonders powers, the infinity guantlet, thors hammer and i forget the last one, but theese are all things that would destroy or damage adamantium as well. These are powers on a celestial level.
Having said all of that...,Wolverine murders Cap. Cap could easily knock Wolverine out but he's not killing him...,ever.
The last one you can't remember is the most damming one of all: the "cancerous" effect that was natural to the alloy. It's the one where, slowly, the defective molecules spread to others until it shattered on the deck when retrieved from the ocean.
While his shield is certainly called the most durable/indestructible substance known in the 616 universe, it still has many more destruction feats compared to true adamantium. By feats, that would make it weaker. (lol)
But my point was never to say that wolverine's claws would be able to damage the shield. I was just answering Imp's question and expanding on it.
Neither Wolverine nor Captain America possess the strength required to dent the shield or adamantium. If I'm not mistaken, Thor DID dent Captain's shield many years ago when he was powered by the Odinforce. Thor also dented secondary adantium (which kind of pissed me off when they said it was retconned to secondary...because it was intended to be primary adamantium and would run parallel, nicely, with the dent feat from thor to the Cap's shield.)
Aaaaaaand holy shit....this thread got a bit out of hand into the comics realm. It would be nice if Placidity came into this thread and gave more detail (he's awesome with details like the issue # and series) because I don't keep up with Marvel comics (mainstream ones) anymore.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx...if wolverine gets knocked out he loses the fight
Vibranium is the only known substance to be stronger than adamantium. Caps shield is made of an iron vibranium alloy. There is no way that Wolverine is piercing or slicing through caps shield.The only things to destroy or damage caps shield have been, Silver surfers board, dr doom when he stole beyonders powers, the infinity guantlet, thors hammer and i forget the last one, but theese are all things that would destroy or damage adamantium as well. These are powers on a celestial level.
Having said all of that...,Wolverine murders Cap. Cap could easily knock Wolverine out but he's not killing him...,ever.