Originally posted by NemeBro
Seriously, no matter how much pain Jane causes him, they cannot so much as break his skin, and he could lazily rip them in half.
Ok, lets go with the assumption that they can't penetrate his skin. Thats still a draw if he is incapacitated by Jane.
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Hancock kills them before they can react mebbe?
I disagree with this. While Hancock is pretty fast, the Twilight gang have superspeed of their own, even if not as fast, they'd still be able to see him, Hancock ain't no Smallville. My opinion of course.
Originally posted by Placidity
Ok, lets go with the assumption that they can't penetrate his skin. Thats still a draw if he is incapacitated by Jane.I disagree with this. While Hancock is pretty fast, the Twilight gang have superspeed of their own, even if not as fast, they'd still be able to see him, Hancock ain't no Smallville. My opinion of course.
Your last statement is true. Edward and Felix are moving so fast, IN a 4x slow-mo, that they still appear to be a blur. Not quite Smallville, but still pretty damn uber.
They are fast, but not compared to Hancock. That's like an olympic runner being fast, but then he goes up against Lestat.
Hancock casually broke the sound barrier, went fast enough to break Earth's atmosphere and head into space. And he was fast enough to paint the All-Heart logo on the moon before anyone noticed.
On top of that during the bank robbery he was moving so fast he was invisible to the robbers.
Originally posted by Placidity
I disagree with this. While Hancock is pretty fast, the Twilight gang have superspeed of their own, even if not as fast, they'd still be able to see him, Hancock ain't no Smallville. My opinion of course.
wat?
Hancock is hyper sonic dude =|
No being in Twilight has ever moved nearly half as fast as Hancock is.
Hancock, no rly, rips most of the vampires apart before they even have the slightest idea what's going on.
Originally posted by KingD19
They are fast, but not compared to Hancock. That's like an olympic runner being fast, but then he goes up against Lestat.Hancock casually broke the sound barrier, went fast enough to break Earth's atmosphere and head into space. And he was fast enough to paint the All-Heart logo on the moon before anyone noticed.
On top of that during the bank robbery he was moving so fast he was invisible to the robbers.
That's apples to oranges.
Flying really fast is not the same as H2H combat speed.
To make this make more sense:
I can certainly swing my arm in a punching motion MUCH faster than I could move it left and right, up and down, in a rapid motion. To put this into perspective: have 3 dudes line up with automatic paintball guns about 25 yards away. If you could move your arms, left and right, up and down, as fast as you could punch your arm in a near linear motion, you could move them both fast enough to catch all of the balls that are shot at you. However, you can't. You mind just cannot keep up with. Sure, you can move your arms fast enough, but your mind can't track the projectiles and your body react to it fast enough.
This is the same with flying in a straight line as fast as you can versus moving about in a H2H fight: sure, he may be able to propel his body fast enough but his mind was never shown to be even remotely close to the perception of the Twivamps.
However, do NOT mistake what I said about as indicating my support for the Twivamps.
I think this is a stalemate. There's just no way for the Twivamps to kill Hancock: only a KO or debilitation of Hancock.
I honestly do not believe that the teeth of the vampires is near enough to hurt Hancock and a Nuke certainly will not take him out. Even if Alec blinds him and Jane hurts him...all that does is cripple him...but they still do not kill him.
Hancock in a stomp. Twivamps might be able to slow him down a bit but they wouldn't be able to stop their own impending doom.
"If you don't give yourselves up quietly, I swear to Christ, your head is going up the driver's ass, his head is going up your ass, and you drew the short stick, cause your head is going up my ass!"
Just picture it being said to Twivamps instead...
Originally posted by Flameback
Hancock in a stomp. Twivamps might be able to slow him down a bit but they wouldn't be able to stop their own impending doom."If you don't give yourselves up quietly, I swear to Christ, your head is going up the driver's ass, his head is going up your ass, and you drew the short stick, cause your head is going up my ass!"
Just picture it being said to Twivamps instead...
The problem is...it's at best, a stale-mate. The twivamps have players on their side that can completely null the senses...like...all five. (Alec.)
I think it's a silly match-up and people like Jane, Alec, and Renata should be removed from the thread. That way, we have a winner.
Wait, Hancock may still be able to win but it requires knowledge of the other side.
He could just throw a really large object at them from several miles away: right outside the range of Edward's "thought" sensing. I don't know how Alice's precog will affect things, however...she pretty much showed that her precog works so specifically that she can make elaborate plans to change the outcomes of very complex events...so that tactic may not work.
What do you guys think about my "winning" strategy? Will it work even with Alice in play? He could certainly take out Jane and Alec that way: just throw a giant bomb or fuel tanker at them or something...but he has to do it outside the range of Edward.
But, that still does not account of Renata. How does he attack Aro-Renata combo? If he tries to, he will stop and forget that he was attacking them.
How does he get around that?
Originally posted by dadudemon
The problem is...it's at best, a stale-mate. The twivamps have players on their side that can completely null the senses...like...all five. (Alec.)I think it's a silly match-up and people like Jane, Alec, and Renata should be removed from the thread. That way, we have a winner.
Wait, Hancock may still be able to win but it requires knowledge of the other side.
He could just throw a really large object at them from several miles away: right outside the range of Edward's "thought" sensing. I don't know how Alice's precog will affect things, however...she pretty much showed that her precog works so specifically that she can make elaborate plans to change the outcomes of very complex events...so that tactic may not work.
What do you guys think about my "winning" strategy? Will it work even with Alice in play? He could certainly take out Jane and Alec that way: just throw a giant bomb or fuel tanker at them or something...but he has to do it outside the range of Edward.
But, that still does not account of Renata. How does he attack Aro-Renata combo? If he tries to, he will stop and forget that he was attacking them.
How does he get around that?
He flies into them at hyper sonic speeds, ripping them apart, all the whilst they can't see him or do anything.
The End 😐
Originally posted by Pwned
Plus hiding counts as disqualification, if im right. Burrowing underground counts as hiding.No way they can stop Hancock from just flying to get a meteoroid and killing them with it.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
That would at best count as a stalemate and at worse as a self-bfr.
Sorry, you can't invent rules 2 pages into the thread.
If Hancock can start at several miles away so he can build up speed to hypersonic speed in addition to trying to keep himself out of their view, then he "ringed out".
Digging into the ground 20-100 feet is definitely not a ring out. That's ring in. 🙂 There's also no "ring-out" rule stipulated in the OP. If you want to script the threads, guys, I can do the same thing. Just because I'm better at it, doesn't mean you can randomly create rules to try and disqualify one side.
I know it's frustrating that the Twivamps have special "gifts" that make what seems to be an obvious fight a "landslide victory" but that sh*t happens and you have to...get this...sometimes change your mind on how a fight would occur.
It's a forum rule that if someone can only survive a forum battle by running away then they obviously lose actually. Which is what you're scripting here. Though I'm curious as to what going underground will do to help them win. At least it'll stop the gayass sparkles.
I also don't see them surviving a speed-blitz.