Originally posted by Simbon
It's merely a question of the area of distribution - there is not a qualitative difference here, and even if we believe that Shaw's powers work by surface area, it is foolish to imagine that even with the small size of wolverine's claws that they pack more of a punch than warpath, colossus, cyclops, etc. Shaw being cut by logan is as PIS as Daken being able to kick him.
As it is with almost anyone with his powers guildo,maverick ect.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Your taking the power far to literally. He does not absorb energy perfectly. Your basing his powers off the priniciable that they work and absorb all and any kenetic energy against him, which is not how it works. If that was the case whenever he get hit he would not move, or even feel it effects. However he constantly gets knock back by punches. That becuase he still gets hit and he not absorbing the kenetic energy 100% efficiently.As it is with almost anyone with his powers guildo,maverick ect.
Again, even if you don't agree with me on that count, you can't deny that cutting attacks, even if they do make him bleed, have accomplished nothing more — wolverine does better against hulks than he does against Shaw. Short of Terrax, I don't think anyone is going to do much damage to him via edged weapons.
Originally posted by Simbon
Again, even if you don't agree with me on that count, you can't deny that cutting attacks, even if they do make him bleed, have accomplished nothing more — wolverine does better against hulks than he does against Shaw. Short of Terrax, I don't think anyone is going to do much damage to him via edged weapons.
I disagree completely. His powers don't work nor really anyone with his type of powers work the way you are implying. They are still very much damage by piercing attacks, the only real difference is that they gain some energy from the kenetic energy being transfered. It however does not stop him from being stabbed, slashed, bled out ect.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
What do you mean accomplished nothing more? They cna easily bleed him out, cause serous damage ect.I disagree completely. His powers don't work nor really anyone with his type of powers work the way you are implying. They are still very much damage by piercing attacks, the only real difference is that they gain some energy from the kenetic energy being transfered. It however does not stop him from being stabbed, slashed, bled out ect.
You're right; aside from making Shaw bleed and get pissed off, those claw attacks accomplished two things: jack and sh!t. And jack left town.
Seriously though, Logan has been totally outclassed by Shaw, and has proved less tenacious in fighting him than he has against foes like Hulk or Rulk —_clearly because "bleeding him out" is not a viable option. Gorgon isn't going to do any better.
Dum Dum is Wolverine fanboy who wants to ignore on panel evidence that Wolverine can't cut Shaw but then wants to assume Daken stabbing him(which did nothing) isn't PIS for whatever warped reason and apply it to Wolverine when we see that Wolverine can't cut him already? Wolverine didn't even make Shaw bleed when he cut him with his claws. In case you didn't notice Shaw has a red knot for his pony tail which is what Wolverine cut and is what hes holding while Wolverine tells Prof to run. Once again you are willfully misrepresenting what happens on panel to skew showings toward Wolverine.
Does that make sense? I can even post scans showing Shaw's abilities are to absorb all kinetic energy not some imaginary durability power that you made up to support your argument.
We seriously need to start banning some of these trolls
Originally posted by Simbon
You're right; aside from making Shaw bleed and get pissed off, those claw attacks accomplished two things: jack and sh!t. And jack left town.Seriously though, Logan has been totally outclassed by Shaw, and has proved less tenacious in fighting him than he has against foes like Hulk or Rulk —_clearly because "bleeding him out" is not a viable option. Gorgon isn't going to do any better.
Were do you come to such conclusion? They had only one fight that was one on one. The entire fight took place off pannel pretty much.
Why is it not a viable option? Because in fact pierce though the most effective way for dealing with shaw was through piercing attacks........
actaully gorgon has god forged blades, and he going to cut shaw into pierces.
Originally posted by SasuOna
Dum Dum is Wolverine fanboy who wants to ignore on panel evidence that Wolverine can't cut Shaw but then wants to assume Daken stabbing him(which did nothing) isn't PIS for whatever warped reason and apply it to Wolverine when we see that Wolverine can't cut him already? Wolverine didn't even make Shaw bleed when he cut him with his claws. In case you didn't notice Shaw has a red knot for his pony tail which is what Wolverine cut and is what hes holding while Wolverine tells Prof to run. Once again you are willfully misrepresenting what happens on panel to skew showings toward Wolverine.Does that make sense? I can even post scans showing Shaw's abilities are to absorb all kinetic energy not some imaginary durability power that you made up to support your argument.
We seriously need to start banning some of these trolls
Ah, I did not know that about Dum Dum. I will leave it at that, then.
Originally posted by Simbon
Ah, I did not know that about Dum Dum. I will leave it at that, then.
But if you want to use his nonsense as a cop out form having a real debate, then have fun with that. 😉
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Gorgon has a high degree of superhuman combat speed.TP that comes in handy in battlefield, reading moves, distracting opponents, etc.
Superb skill.
Magical sword.
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Shaw gets killed here.
Emma's TP fails against Shaw; Shaw also has superhuman combat speed and superb skill. Nothing about Gorgon's blade that I've seen suggests that it's a game-changer.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
lol dont listen to his nonsense. He perhaps the least respected poster on this board. He from another sight, and more or less comes on here to troll.But if you want to use his nonsense as a cop out form having a real debate, then have fun with that. 😉
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SasuOna is a joke, not a poster. Everybody 'cept for new posters realizes that, don't even bother to react.
Originally posted by Simbon
Emma's TP fails against Shaw; Shaw also has superhuman combat speed and superb skill. Nothing about Gorgon's blade that I've seen suggests that it's a game-changer.
Emma's TP failed against Wolverine, too. And Gorgon's one worked fine.
Trust me, Gorgon is much faster and arguably more skilled than Logan himself.
True, we need some feats for Grasscutter. Common sense dictates it wouldn't have much trouble piercing Shaw, though.