Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganWell... he looks far more resistant to them than most top-tier bricks. Whether or not there are polar opposite arguments being posed that Shaw is completely immune OR completely vulnerable to piercing attacks...
It damage him which was my entire point. He not immune to it by any means.Shaw did the get better of him, but wolverine did get out of the hold. And I personally believe he beat shaw off pannel once he gain a serous advantage by cutting out the lights. I also personally believe that blood on the ground was clearly shaws, despite people loving to claim other wise.
... it just didn't look like it made a difference from their actual fight.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I'd have to look at t he fight again but I recall thinking the pool of blood was from the beating Logan took at the hands of the Black King.
Shaw having the advantage is true, but pretending that is wolverine blood seem very foolish to me. We clearly see that shaw back is bleed, but we assume the guy getting choked is the one bleeding every were not the guy with the three knife wounds on his back......
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganYou're right, punches don't cause blood, all those boxing and mma fights with blood come from tiny knives they're cutting each other with.
It makes more sense that the guy hit with blunt force attacks blood is every were, but not the guy who got his back slash open?are you kidding me?
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There also isn't large amounts of blood from comic fights where people are only using blunt force e.g. punches.
It's also not true that Shaw has at the least, some level of resistance against Logan's claws.
Again, don't go full retard.
Originally posted by Mindset
You're right, punches don't cause blood, all those boxing and mma fights with blood come from tiny knives they're cutting each other with.It's also not true that Shaw has at the least, some level of resistance against Logan's claws.
Again, don't go full retard.
never denied he could not withstand some stabbs, quite the opposite.
as usual always a pleasure, watching you be a twit.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganOh, so it's not even blunt force trauma now, he was only choking him, gotcha.
tell me whats more likely the guy being choked causing the pool of blood or the guy who had 3 knifes slash the shit out of his back. 🙄never denied he could not withstand some stabbs, quite the opposite.
as usual always a pleasure, watching you be a twit.
So he is resistant to his claws, but not resistant enough to where he wouldn't bleed out a pool of blood, gotcha.
It's a pleasure watching you strain to think...I guess that's what you're doing.
Originally posted by Mindset
Oh, so it's not even blunt force trauma now, he was only choking him, gotcha.So he is resistant to his claws, but not resistant enough to where he wouldn't bleed out a pool of blood, gotcha.
It's a pleasure watching you strain to think...I guess that's what you're doing.
Yes, he has good enough damage soak to withstand several attacks, but he would bleed out sooner or later. Though his ability absorb kinetic energy keeps him in there longer then most (also I not saying wolverine beats him, im talking purely shaw piercing resistance)
Arnt you so clever 😉
Originally posted by SasuOna
Dum Dum is Wolverine fanboy who wants to ignore on panel evidence that Wolverine can't cut Shaw but then wants to assume Daken stabbing him(which did nothing) isn't PIS for whatever warped reason and apply it to Wolverine when we see that Wolverine can't cut him already? Wolverine didn't even make Shaw bleed when he cut him with his claws. In case you didn't notice Shaw has a red knot for his pony tail which is what Wolverine cut and is what hes holding while Wolverine tells Prof to run. Once again you are willfully misrepresenting what happens on panel to skew showings toward Wolverine.Does that make sense? I can even post scans showing Shaw's abilities are to absorb all kinetic energy not some imaginary durability power that you made up to support your argument.
We seriously need to start banning some of these trolls
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You claimed Shaw couldn't be cut...
then posted scans of him being cut/stabbed on two occassions. 😕
Seems like a pretty hapless way of proving that Shaw can't be cut don't you think?
Tell you what, since you ALREADY proved for DDD that Shaw CAN be cut, perhaps you can now prove that he's resisted being cut as well... and done it more often...
THEN we can have a reasonable discussion on the matter. Until then the only one here being a troll is you, shocking I know. 🙄
Originally posted by SasuOna
I actually read the entire crossover and not just the Wolverine issues unlike some of youDaken never even penetrated his skin with his Claws which is why he had to kick him out a window which still failed to hurt him since we know he tanked an explosion in the same issue he fought Wolverine.
Wolverine couldn't do anything to him either which is why he had to cut the lights off and run from Shaw.Heres the Wolverine fight
http://i.imgur.com/ew4gQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qc6ej.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cCQxz.jpg
That's the cloth on his vest Wolverine cut. Logan had a clear shot and Shaw made no big deal about. Ironic how it's suppose to blood on Shaw's left hand (and likely right as well) when every panel after you see no traces of blood at all in either hand. If it's blood on his left hand running from the fingers tips to his wrist, it's magically disappeared as quick as it took long to say "Go Now" and lunged at Shaw. Third page you see no blood at all covering any part of his left or right hand. Conclusion: it's the cloth of his vest Wolverine cut up.
Wolverine has a bleeding nose though if that counts for anything.
Originally posted by jinzin
Yeah but there's panels thereafter where his vest isn't even cut. 😬At any rate I don't think that Shaw was grimmacing in what looked like pain, and forced to drop Charles because Wolverine DIDN'T do anything to him.
To me it looks like he got cut.
True, he did look like Grimace their and let go of Charles. But it's not clear that Wolverine actually drew blood as some is saying. Looks like cloth to me. Then Shaw goes on to manhandle Logan like nothing happen and we see no blood in either hand. Somethings red on his left hand and Shaw reached behind his back with his right hand but the following panels show no blood.
Not much of an X-Men reader but does anyone else have anything showing Shaw being pierced? Not ambiguous scenes like the the Daken and Wolverine fights. And no, I'm not looking for lectures here by anybody about how this is. Would just like too see other instances. Thanks
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Not much of an X-Men reader but does anyone else have anything showing Shaw being pierced? Not ambiguous scenes like the the Daken and Wolverine fights. And no, I'm not looking for lectures here by anybody about how this is. Would just like too see other instances. Thanks
agreed.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
True, he did look like Grimace their and let go of Charles. But it's not clear that Wolverine actually drew blood as some is saying. Looks like cloth to me. Then Shaw goes on to manhandle Logan like nothing happen and we see no blood in either hand. Somethings red on his left hand and Shaw reached behind his back with his right hand but the following panels show no blood.Not much of an X-Men reader but does anyone else have anything showing Shaw being pierced? Not ambiguous scenes like the the Daken and Wolverine fights. And no, I'm not looking for lectures here by anybody about how this is. Would just like too see other instances. Thanks
I believe Shaw absorbs to much of the kinetic energy of the knife to be fully pierced. It doesn't look like he got cut in those scans. But from the Daken one, I'd say he can be cut, but they're shallow cuts almost like scratches.
As for Original Sin, Wolverine snuck away from the fight after getting mounted by Shaw.
And as for Telepathy, well in that instance Emma panicked. The arc revealed she's afraid of Shaw. His speed stats increase when he absorbs kinetic energy and he was charging at her to squash her head like he did to those other Hellfire bimbos. She was too scared to concentrate and his convinction of wanting her dead were great so she changed quickly to diamond. Her powers worked on him fine before, as has it worked on Wolverine too.
