Rage.Of.Olympus
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Originally posted by jinzin
*sighThor didn't use super speed there. He got blitzed by Hyperion who just bull rushed into him and hit Hyperion off of him AFTER being blitzed. It's not all that impressive except as a showing of what he can tank in blunt force.
A super speedy Hyperion attacks Thor and gets knocked away right after. Thor stops a blitz from a guy whose shown nanosecond combat speed since we know how much the brigade loves using that logic. More impressive than anything I’ve ever seen Logan do.
And IIRC, Hyperion who thought Thor was a friend attacks in the middle of a conversation.
Originally posted by jinzin
😂 Bloodlusted... in the same page where Gladiator flat out states he's HARDLY showing his best while having a noncholant conversation.
Hitting flying debris isn't that impressive, the ninja turtles do it on Saturday morning cartoons. Gladiator was using some amount of speed that's unquantifiable and again BLITZED Thor. At face value Thor wasn't even moving faster than the speed of sound, at logical value it's still unquantifiable.
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Gladiator was sent to kill Thor at any costs. In the beginning of the fight, he tried to use heat vision to incinerate Jake Olsen. The fact that Gladiator exclaims Thor has hardly seen his best and then flies at him immediately does not help your argument.
Gtfo. Thor threw two swings before a Gladiator that is blood lusted covered a few feet. Once again far more impressive than anything I’ve ever seen Logan do.
Calling it unquantifiable doesn’t change that.
Originally posted by jinzin
It doesn't say Thor is punching in between microseconds, it says that his punch is landing microseconds before he himself would be hit.
It would be more quantifiable and impressive if we say him start from a chambered position and then land that blow in the span of microseconds... but that's not what's being shown. We see the effect of his punch microseconds before his hammer connects... It may or may not be a speed feat.
Okay, Thor isn’t punching within microseconds, his doing the entire motion within microseconds.
Originally posted by jinzin
And, if it is a speed feat it's 1 feat that's heavily outside of the majority of Thor's career.
It's as relivent as me bringing up that Wolverine can do hand springs, cartwheels, and flips, while attacking, down a straight line nearly as fast as speed demon can run. It's heavily inconsistent with his typical representation and not worth discussion.
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This is the kind of shit I love.
The brigade adores low balling Thor, mentioning his lowest showings ever (You even brought up the bullet from Priest’s run) but post his higher end showings that blow Wolverine's out of the water, and they aren’t worth the discussion.
You can spew whatever bullshit you need to, to justify Thor not stomping in your heard. 👆
Originally posted by jinzin
When he has to... like while being stabbed and beat on? 🙄 He has to A LOT more than several times in his career where he needs to be reacting at these microsecond speeds, or anything even REMOTELY close and he doesn't that's why it's in question to begin with.
Yes, when he has to. Thor’s speed is very depended on plot. I have no doubt that when a writer needs him to be, he’ll be slower than Logan, but Thor can just as easily be operating at speeds far beyond Logan’s in the next comic.
Originally posted by jinzin
No it wasn't.
It says that the blow was too powerful for a "sword thrust to intercept" which seems to suggest Heimball was attempting to intercept the Hammer but the power was too great to do anything about it.The panel also clarifies a distinction between "the eye"
And a "Mere swordthrust by Heimdall"
It specifies one sentence to Heimdall while leaving the other to generalization.
Yes it was. The sword was up in the previous panels in a defensive mode.
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Originally posted by jinzin
In spite of reading all of Thor's appearances.... riiiiight 🙄
I highly doubt it.
Originally posted by jinzin
Again Thor being attacked and then reacting to the attacker while they're STILL attacking him isn't a speed feat.
If Wolverine was as half as fast as you guys like to pretend he is in comparison to Thor, the Odinson wouldn’t be able to turn around and bat him away. That very comic contradicts itself. If the tables were turned however, you’d argue that Thor’s thoughts were not finished and he meant faster than I thought or some shit like that, no doubt.
Originally posted by jinzin
There's no blood coming out of Thor's back.
There's no damage to his costume in the back.
No Damage to his cape.
Wolverine's claws are retracted the next time we see them in the very next panel.
Wolverine already cut Thor with swipes.
Stabbing would have ended one of two ways with Thor stabbed, or with Wolverine's claws being pushed back up his forearms. Since he already cut Thor it's not hard to come to a reasonable conclussion on the matter.. unless of course you're a Thor fan I guess.
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So Wolverine hurt Thor because he hit him that hard? A character doesn’t go “ARGGHH” when taken by surprise by the way if that’s the silly route you want to go with.
We even see the motion lines that are nearly exact to the ones from previous pages.
And because I know you’re going to try and argue something as silly as “when he landed his claws were retracted so they weren’t used”, in the previous page, we see his claws clearly out, and they were retracted when he was in the air:
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/wolvie_thor3.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/wolvie_thor4.jpg
Heck, Wolverine having the claws out before the toss, and them being retracted after it, is enough to destroy any of those stances.