Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
A super speedy Hyperion attacks Thor and gets knocked away right after. Thor stops a blitz from a guy whose shown nanosecond combat speed since we know how much the brigade loves using that logic. More impressive than anything I’ve ever seen Logan do.And IIRC, Hyperion who thought Thor was a friend attacks in the middle of a conversation.
This isn't hard to understand Rage, he stopped Hyperion after Hyperion landed his attack. He got blitzed. He wasn't able to react to his speed, he just batted him away while Hyperion was pushing on him. It's not hard to connect a punch on someone who's basically trying to tackle you. I shouldn't have to explain something this simple.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Gladiator was sent to kill Thor at any costs. In the beginning of the fight, he tried to use heat vision to incinerate Jake Olsen. The fact that Gladiator exclaims Thor has hardly seen his best and then flies at him immediately does not help your argument.
Yeah it does, because in spite of his orders he wasn't bloodlusted.
He flat out states he's hardly using his best. The fact that he's flying immediately after isn't an indication that he is, especially talking in calm manner... and Thor got blitzed anyway.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Gtfo. Thor threw two swings before a Gladiator that is blood lusted covered a few feet. Once again far more impressive than anything I’ve ever seen Logan do.Calling it unquantifiable doesn’t change that.
Sure it does, because Gladiator wasn't bloodlusted, and flat out stated he was hardly using his best.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Okay, Thor isn’t punching within microseconds, his doing the entire motion within microseconds.
You interpretation... which may or may not be accurate.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The brigade adores low balling Thor, mentioning his lowest showings ever (You even brought up the bullet from Priest’s run) but post his higher end showings that blow Wolverine's out of the water, and they aren’t worth the discussion.You can spew whatever bullshit you need to, to justify Thor not stomping in your heard. 👆
Thor has never proven resistance to Adamantium weaponry and in fact every bit of evidence confirms otherwise, I'm sorry you don't like that FACT but I don't know what else to tell you. It's not alow showing, it's the consistency according to Marvel.
Just as it's the consistency for Thor that operating at that level of speed would be FAR outside of Thor's typical showings and you don't need to be a Thor expert to know that.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes, when he has to. Thor’s speed is very depended on plot. I have no doubt that when a writer needs him to be, he’ll be slower than Logan, but Thor can just as easily be operating at speeds far beyond Logan’s in the next comic.
Except that he doesn't which two of your "pro" Thor feats display.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes it was. The sword was up in the previous panels in a defensive mode.
Again, I don't know what to tell you. Heimdall attempted to block the attack. The panel confirms this through narration. It's not really up for debate.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I highly doubt it.
Why? Because he doesn't agree with your viewpoints on the matter? I've read a good chunk of his ongoings since his second series and a number of his appearances in Avengers books plus a mass of other classic appearances and you apparently think I don't know anything about Thor because I don't think he's some speedster in combat.
It's absurd.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If Wolverine was as half as fast as you guys like to pretend he is in comparison to Thor, the Odinson wouldn’t be able to turn around and bat him away. That very comic contradicts itself. If the tables were turned however, you’d argue that Thor’s thoughts were not finished and he meant faster than I thought or some shit like that, no doubt.
Well that's already a skewed perspective as it's just like the Hyperion example, Wolverine jumps Thor, Wolverine's on Thor and THEN Thor reacts... Anyways.. This is the problem of KMC. No one said that Wolverine's so fast he can't be touched by Thor, or that Thor can't dream about hitting Wolverine in a pro-longed battle. That's just nonsense. But Wolverine IS typically faster than Thor in combat. It has nothing to do with dreams, it has to do with TYPICAL representations and ON PANEL proof... all of which you ignore to pretend Thor is a another hero with abilities he supposedly has but never shows.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So Wolverine hurt Thor because he hit him that hard? A character doesn’t go “ARGGHH” when taken by surprise by the way if that’s the silly route you want to go with.
No, not because he hit him hard, that wasn't my argument, you're really living up to Optic Blast's assertion of your context and comprehension issues.
Thinking Thor was either surprised, frustrated, or ALREADY in pain from his previous injuries which he's nursing later is not silly... and not nearly as silly as pretending that Wolverine can't puncture him after watching Wolverine cut him with swipes. It's not nearly as silly as watching Thor nursing his ribs and pretending that being stabbed in the back isn't more damaging.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And because I know you’re going to try and argue something as silly as “when he landed his claws were retracted so they weren’t used”, in the previous page, we see his claws clearly out, and they were retracted when he was in the air:
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/wolvie_thor3.jpg
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/wolvie_thor4.jpgHeck, Wolverine having the claws out before the toss, and them being retracted after it, is enough to destroy any of those stances.
I already agreed that the art wasn't consistent.
Does it destroy the stance that being stabbed in the back would be more damaging than being sliced in the ribs? Cause well... it doesn't.
