Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Thor. Rulk one-shotted him by batting him into the bay.
I don't know what fight you are talking about... Rulk bfred him AFTER getting his eyes gauged out. Before this, he was getting blitzed.
When did Thor one shot Wolvy. Even after Thor took the gloves off and hit Wolvy with a blast, Wolvy was still awake.
You are confusing me ODG.
^ Thor two-shotted him. Rulk one-shotted him. If they can do that and get kitty-scratched in return, why would they need to go movie kung fu mode and try to match dancing steps with Wolverine?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It's one thing to try to drag Thor down to Wolverine's level. It's another to expect him to fight at his lower level. It's yet another thing entirely to hold his refusal to lower himself that way as if that were some sort of inferiority.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Thor two-shotted him. Rulk one-shotted him. If they can do that and get kitty-scratched in return, why would they need to go movie kung fu mode and try to match dancing steps with Wolverine?
Can you show me a scan of these tko?
I don't remember Rulk or Thor koing him with brute force.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Thor two-shotted him. Rulk one-shotted him. If they can do that and get kitty-scratched in return, why would they need to go movie kung fu mode and try to match dancing steps with Wolverine?
Neither Rulk nor Thor beat Wolverine. The fight between Rulk and Wolverine was interruped - Wolverine took a cab back to the scene and was about to dish out some damage when the fight was stopped. Rulk was blind. Had the fight continued, Rulk might have been killed. If you want to believe that's the equivolent of a ten year old playing tag with an adult, be my guest.
The fight with Thor was ended...not by force but by the will of Logan once the lightning somehow jolting him back to reality. He wasn't damaged at all. In fact, Thor in comparison was in more difficulty. Granted he lacks a healing factor on Logans level but still. Logan acted like absolutely nothing happened. That doesn't count as a victory for either character.
Originally posted by The Real Wolvie
Neither Rulk nor Thor beat Wolverine. The fight between Rulk and Wolverine was interruped - Wolverine took a cab back to the scene and was about to dish out some damage when the fight was stopped. Rulk was blind. Had the fight continued, Rulk might have been killed. If you want to believe that's the equivolent of a ten year old playing tag with an adult, be my guest.The fight with Thor was ended...not by force but by the will of Logan once the lightning somehow jolting him back to reality. He wasn't damaged at all. In fact, Thor in comparison was in more difficulty. Granted he lacks a healing factor on Logans level but still. Logan acted like absolutely nothing happened. That doesn't count as a victory for either character.
Okaaay... Other than the "I don't read Thor post" you were actually doing well up until you posted this....
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Originally posted by The Real Wolvie... what.
The fight with Thor was ended...not by force but by the will of Logan once the lightning somehow jolting him back to reality. He wasn't damaged at all. In fact, Thor in comparison was in more difficulty. Granted he lacks a healing factor on Logans level but still. Logan acted like absolutely nothing happened. That doesn't count as a victory for either character.
Guess Thor hasn't been beaten too often either. Everytime he's been KO'ed, he's gotten up no worse for wear. HOW DOES THIS TEAM STAND A CHANCE AGAINST SUCH A BEAST?
Originally posted by The Real Wolvie
Neither Rulk nor Thor beat Wolverine. The fight between Rulk and Wolverine was interruped - Wolverine took a cab back to the scene and was about to dish out some damage when the fight was stopped. Rulk was blind. Had the fight continued, Rulk might have been killed. If you want to believe that's the equivolent of a ten year old playing tag with an adult, be my guest.The fight with Thor was ended...not by force but by the will of Logan once the lightning somehow jolting him back to reality. He wasn't damaged at all. In fact, Thor in comparison was in more difficulty. Granted he lacks a healing factor on Logans level but still. Logan acted like absolutely nothing happened. That doesn't count as a victory for either character.
Thor vs Wolverine, both going "all out".
Who would win?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So you don't trust the word of several people telling you it's not Odinforce Thor as well as these scans posted not mentioning anything at all about Thor amping various attributes with the Odinforce? I mean, if you don't read Thor, then, all things considered, you really shouldn't assume anything about the character insofar as him having the OF or not.And ignoring dozens of feats and scans which illustrate his speed and trying to, in the same breath mind you, tell people they need to look at the "OVERALL" portrayal of the character when you yourself admittedly don't read Thor and as such wouldn't have an informed idea of what that would entail is...questionable, at best.
I was addressing his assertions that Thor can apparently punch in between microseconds. Which would make him capable of punching at around half a million punches per second. Find a microsecond to second conversion chart. If he doesn't believe that, then there's no issue.
I don't need to have read a comic book about a character to know their basic attributes. That's what handbooks and marvel entries are for - they are pretty accurate overall. For example, I don't need to read a comic to know that Hulk can't fly and can't run at the speed of light. Regardless of what feats might portray Hulk moving that fast I already understand the character well enough to know what he can and cannot do.
Thor is not considered a speedster by Marvel - that much is evident. At least he's not in the same league as Speed Demon let's say. His combat reflexes are obviously not that great either if he even so much as gets tagged by Hulk. Wolverine dodges Hulk all day. If Thor was really as vastly superior as everyone claims, there would be no way anyone from Earth could tough him. Including Hulk. I have seen the scans in the Thor respect thread to know this.
He may or may not possess greater combat reflexes than Wolverine but there's definately enough evidence for that particular subject to remain in question. The fact that Logan himself was counterattacking and cutting Thor up is all the evidence I need. If super combat reflexes were part of Thor's repitore as per the norm, then Tieri would not have been allowed to write him the way he did. It would be akin to writing Spiderman completely without a spidersense. Or forgetting that Spiderman can walk on walls etc. Something like super combat reflexes would also be on the official Marvel page as part of his abilities list - and the argument that they are inaccurate is invalid since most of the time they are pretty damn accurate. In fact, I challenge anyone to show me even ONE invalid tid bit of information on the Marvel character description page. NOTE: I'm not talking about the power grid..that thing is all over the place and is horribly inaccurate.
Originally posted by The Real Wolvie
He has also dodged Hulk
So has Thor.
Fact of the matter is that because Thor doesn't fight like Wolverine does, his feats aren't good enough for you and others supporting Gorgon and Omega Red, essentially SOLEY based on their encounter with Wolverine. Despite the fact his feats support him operating at speeds which dwarf Logan.
If you can't admit that much, then there's nothing more to discuss with you, really.
Originally posted by The Real Wolvie... Thor's dodged Hulk too. And this coming from the camp that argues that Wolverine aim-blocking lasers means he has lightspeed reflexes. This isn't hypocrisy or even irony anymore. I'm not getting sucked into this type of stupid any further.
He has also dodged Hulk...but he doesn't have lightspeed combat reflexes. That's obsurd. But if Thor had that, he wouldn't be able to be tagged by ANYONE.