The Gorgon and Omega Red vs Thor in Melee Fight

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Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
only that flash wonder woman and superman got feats to prove they are speedsters IN COMBAT they all have many feats to show they are overcoming someone with greater fighting speed or dealing with multiple opponents at the same time, thor never presented any feats to suggest he can speed blitz someone in fighting his only feats are matching someone who is suppose to be faster just for the sake of the interesting fight , its the same thing as street levelers fighting spidy or death stroke fighting flash again your side proves to be hypocrites
I don't need to show that Thor matches Superman's or Wonder Woman's feats. I just need to show he beats out and outnumbers Wolverine's. So keep straw-manning what we're challenging. Or cry more.

Thor can't ever speedblitz? Phuck do I care about that proposition. Thor can't ever deal with speedsters? That's what this is ultimately about. And ya'll too blind to pay attention to comics and Thor's career specifically on that. You'll just pretend that Wolverine somehow has better and more feats and never get into proving it and act like that bolded proposition is somehow true because you want it to be. Thor being brought down to Wolverine's level means less than Wonder Woman being brought down to Deathstroke's level.

You just don't get it, ODG.

We're supposed to take all of Logan's speed feats and auto-assume they outshine Thor's. Furthermore, as Gorgon and OR are Wolvie-centric foes, we can replace their own feats with Wolverine and give them the same benefit of the doubt. So what that you, Rage, myself, Silent Master, and others provide concrete examples? WTF does that matter?

Thor is the slowest one there is. He can't fight on Superman or Wonder Woman's level of speed in combat and he said Wolverine was too fast even though he grabbed him just after that admission. To hell with your proof and scans!

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I don't need to show that Thor matches Superman's or Wonder Woman's feats. I just need to show he beats out and outnumbers Wolverine's. So keep straw-manning what we're challenging. Or cry more.

Thor can't ever speedblitz? Phuck do I care about that proposition. [b]Thor can't ever deal with speedsters? That's what this is ultimately about. And ya'll too blind to pay attention to comics and Thor's career specifically on that. You'll just pretend that Wolverine somehow has better and more feats and never get into proving it and act like that bolded proposition is somehow true because you want it to be. Thor being brought down to Wolverine's level means less than Wonder Woman being brought down to Deathstroke's level. [/B]

i like the "i dont need to show"statement it reflect your entire actions it reflect the entire thor fanboys actions here

i didnt ask you to match thor with there feats but i just stated a simple point that anyone who suppose to have combat speed at one point or another shows that in combat , even spider-man and wolverine and even cap displayed those many times but thor? never saw thor speed blitzing in combat because he cant

when spider-man fights hulk we see him as clearly faster in fighting, when wolverine goes up against hulk we see the same thing.. when thor goes up against hulk its blow for blow

if thor has some kind of secret speed why didnt he ever show that ? when he fought kurse so many times blow for blow he knows kurse is stronger than him and he stated on panel heis doing everything he can to stop him so why didnt he use his amazing combat speed? oh i know because he doesnt have any case closed

^ Nobody gives two sh1ts about speed blitzing. You just can't get over the fact that speed blitzing means sh1t.

And Spiderman does sh1t to Hulk despite the speed. And Hulk has completely caught his dancing a$$. Because Hulk is not only fast enough to deal with it, based not only on his independent speed feats but his career of dealing with speedsters, he does deal with it on-panel. It means sh1t to him. Sound familiar?

His speed isn't secret. It's called superspeed reflexes and Thor outnumbers Wolverine's on all levels. You can pretend that your negative proof fallacy over Thor throwing millions of punches a second somehow means Thor can never deal with speedsters. At some point, you'll realize the two propositions have absolutely nothing to do with each other. At some point, you'll realize the first proposition is phucking retarded in and of itself. Deal with it.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
i like the "i dont need to show"statement it reflect your entire actions it reflect the entire thor fanboys actions here

Why should we show Thor moving at Superman/WW levels of speed? He certainly doesn't need hardly a fraction of it to deal with people like Wolverine and the people actually involved in this thread not named Wolverine.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
i didnt ask you to match thor with there feats but i just stated a simple point that anyone who suppose to have combat speed at one point or another shows that in combat , even spider-man and wolverine and even cap displayed those many times but thor? never saw thor speed blitzing in combat because he cant

Thor doesn't speed blitz offensively. No one says he does this. He also doesn't need to speed blitz to wreck people with his superior speed. All he has to do is swing Mjolnir or his fist fast enough to connect and deal damage. You're deluded if you think he can't do that.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
when spider-man fights hulk we see him as clearly faster in fighting, when wolverine goes up against hulk we see the same thing.. when thor goes up against hulk its blow for blow

Thor doesn't fight in Spidey's style or Wolverine's style of fighting. Acting like he has to fight like them in order to "be fast" is ridiculous. His reaction time has been shown to exceed that. Thor fights with his weight and puts force and power into his punches and hammer swings. He doesn't do a bunch of flips or flashy acrobatics and pretending he needs to do that and fight like a street leveler to beat a street leveler is asinine.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
if thor has some kind of secret speed why didnt he ever show that ? when he fought kurse so many times blow for blow he knows kurse is stronger than him and he stated on panel heis doing everything he can to stop him so why didnt he use his amazing combat speed? oh i know because he doesnt have any case closed

Same reason Thor doesn't Godblast people he knows are more powerful than him or drain their life essence or just throw Mjolnir at FTL speeds. Same reason Superman doesn't bath mofos in heat vision or Diana soul ravages or speed blitz at the beginning of their fights or in a lot of their fights, period.

Thor still has showed speed beyond Wolverine and his foes with on panel feats, feats that we can use per forum rules. You don't have to like them, but they're there.

Oh com on Battlezone it already!!!!!

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Nobody gives two sh1ts about speed blitzing. You just can't get over the fact that speed blitzing means sh1t.

And Spiderman does sh1t to Hulk despite the speed. And Hulk has completely caught his dancing a$$. Because Hulk is not only fast enough to deal with it, based not only on his independent speed feats but his career of dealing with speedsters, he does deal with it on-panel. It means sh1t to him. Sound familiar?

His speed isn't secret. It's called superspeed reflexes and Thor outnumbers Wolverine's on all levels. You can pretend that your negative proof fallacy over Thor throwing millions of punches a second somehow means Thor can never deal with speedsters. At some point, you'll realize the two propositions have absolutely nothing to do with each other. At some point, you'll realize the first proposition is phucking retarded in and of itself. Deal with it.

your comment is just too ignorant,was my point ever been that spider-man can hurt the hulk? what are you reading with? your ass?

yes speedblitzing IS a factor because anyone who has some legit super human combat speed displayed it by blizting which shows us that his fighting speed is beyond what we are used to, we are talking here about gorgon who blitzed a speedster while the speedster was using her abilities so yet in this case you will have to work hard to prove thor can even reactto gorgon in a non PIS fight

yes hulk tagged spider-man after getting 100000 hits from him not that it effected hulk but you get the point, hulk can tag those opponents eventually due to him being a freakin huge giant with huge long arms more than due to his actual speed

you are trying to b!tch yourself out of this but it wont work for you, youeither present avidance that thor has combat speed on thoselevels or please shut up

^ Gorgon didn't blitz the speedster, Yo-Yo. He deftly connected with a single slash when she rushed him with speed and Yo-Yo underestimated him. Thor deftly grabbed the scruff of Hermes neck when he rushed him with speed and Hemes underestimated Thor. Gorgon isn't superior to Hermes and by all appearances, is equal to Juvan, Zefra, Quicksilver, all of whom Thor has dealt with.

You hate that? Take some tissue paper and wipe away the anal bleeding and then apply ointment.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
yes hulk tagged spider-man after getting 100000 hits from him not that it effected hulk but you get the point, hulk can tag those opponents eventually due to him being a freakin huge giant with huge long arms more than due to his actual speed

you are trying to b!tch yourself out of this but it wont work for you, youeither present avidance that thor has combat speed on thoselevels or please shut up

Don't be stupid. You obviously haven't read a single Spiderman/Hulk fight.

Nuff said. Your retarded strawmans that Thor can't punch a million tie a second = Thor can't deal with speedsters has been dismantled. Because Thor does deal with speedsters. He always has. And he has the independent superspeed reflexes to support why. Cry more about it.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Why should we show Thor moving at Superman/WW levels of speed? He certainly doesn't need hardly a fraction of it to deal with people like Wolverine and the people actually involved in this thread not named Wolverine.

Thor doesn't speed blitz offensively. No one says he does this. He also doesn't need to speed blitz to wreck people with his superior speed. All he has to do is swing Mjolnir or his fist fast enough to connect and deal damage. You're deluded if you think he can't do that.

Thor doesn't fight in Spidey's style or Wolverine's style of fighting. Acting like he has to fight like them in order to "be fast" is ridiculous. His reaction time has been shown to exceed that. Thor fights with his weight and puts force and power into his punches and hammer swings. He doesn't do a bunch of flips or flashy acrobatics and pretending he needs to do that and fight like a street leveler to beat a street leveler is asinine.

Same reason Thor doesn't Godblast people he knows are more powerful than him or drain their life essence or just throw Mjolnir at FTL speeds. Same reason Superman doesn't bath mofos in heat vision or Diana soul ravages or speed blitz at the beginning of their fights or in a lot of their fights, period.

Thor still has showed speed beyond Wolverine and his foes with on panel feats, feats that we can use per forum rules. You don't have to like them, but they're there.

oh great another one he doesnt understand context is it that ironic that there all belong to the thor wanking club? 🙄

what? all he needs to do is swing mjolnir? give me a break when everhe is facing bricks that are stronger than him and take his hits like nothing why isnt he using his speed then? when facing kurse or hulk who he can see are able to overpower and over brawl him whyisnthe using his speed? is he that dumb? you are a lightweight fighting aheavy weight and you are not going to use your speed but just go blow for blow with him? thats retarded so eitherthor is dumbor you are dumb you choose what is it

no one said he is supposed to do acrobatis here superman doesnt use acrobatis he is using simple brawl but you see how he is using his speed and not flight speed but fighting speed by avoiding hits and many times blitzing his opponent with multiple punches , thor never displayed anything like that show me a fight where thor is avoiding hits from someone showing him moving faster in combat pace, show me thor delivering punches before his opponent can evenreact... you cant because HE CANT

now you are talking bullshit, thor not using the godblast because he IS holding back many timesand doesnt wantto killhis opponent thats logically, butnot using your speed when you are getting your ass kicked then why is he fighting in the first place? why is he throwing punches?thatdoesnt make any sense at all , what DOES make sense is the simple fact that thor just CANT do those things because in combat he is just a brawler

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Gorgon didn't blitz the speedster, Yo-Yo. He deftly connected with a single slash when she rushed him with speed and Yo-Yo underestimated him. Thor deftly grabbed the scruff of Hermes neck when he rushed him with speed and Hemes underestimated Thor. Gorgon isn't superior to Hermes and by all appearances, is equal to Juvan, Zefra, Quicksilver, all of whom Thor has dealt with.

You hate that? Take some tissue paper and wipe away the anal bleeding and then apply ointment. Don't be stupid. You obviously haven't read a single Spiderman/Hulk fight.

Nuff said. Your retarded strawmans that Thor can't punch a million tie a second = Thor can't deal with speedsters has been dismantled. Because Thor does deal with speedsters. He always has. And he has the independent superspeed reflexes to support why. Cry more about it.

Lol whats the matter?all your witty remarks were replaced with cursing like 10 year old retard? Lol i brought to the light your true face you are just pathetic

yo yo was rushing at gorgon in order to cut her hands he needed to wait until she will be close enough to tag her he waited until she reach him and reacted in that nano second to cut her up that shows us his reflexes are greater than a speedster, why cant he be as fast in combat as quicksilver and others? just because you dont like the sound of that? please take your own advice and wipe that anal stain from your face , and while you at it post the thor hermes scan and we will analyze that

all you do is bitching and crying like i just insulted your mother, its funny how you laugh at people here but once you show your true colors you are really pathetic, as i stated and non of you thor wankers proved anything thor never displayed the ability to fightand use fighting movements at super human speeds unless you show him blitzing or avoiding being hit all your crying is useless now go and search me some proof dont come back until you bring something

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
Lol whats the matter?all your witty remarks were replaced with cursing like 10 year old retard? Lol i brought to the light your true face you are just pathetic

yo yo was rushing at gorgon in order to cut her hands he needed to wait until she will be close enough to tag her he waited until she reach him and reacted in that nano second to cut her up that shows us his reflexes are greater than a speedster, why cant he be as fast in combat as quicksilver and others? just because you dont like the sound of that? please take your own advice and wipe that anal stain from your face , and while you at it post the thor hermes scan and we will analyze that

Like you're spewing Shakespeare. Don't try to match wits here. I don't give heavy handicaps.

Trying to reduce what Gorgon did as a nanosecond feat is utterly retarded. Comedian right here. Thor has dealt with speedsters who tried to bumrush him in the same exact way, with a single deft move. You don't like that Thor deals with speedsters who outclass and match Gorgon? Cry. More. Cry some more. Please... cry some more. You want feats? Read a phucking comic or a respect thread. That's what they're there for.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
all you do is bitching and crying like i just insulted your mother, its funny how you laugh at people here but once you show your true colors you are really pathetic, as i stated and non of you thor wankers proved anything thor never displayed the ability to fightand use fighting movements at super human speeds unless you show him blitzing or avoiding being hit all your crying is useless now go and search me some proof dont come back until you bring something
You mad?

You mad. Not my fault your arguments were infantile. Sorry if you got the impression from other posters offering the same exact childish arguments non-stop for 60+ pages that they were somehow immune to deconstruction. Cry more. And watch where you step, you're drippin anal blood.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Like you're spewing Shakespeare. Don't try to match wits here. I don't give heavy handicaps.

Trying to reduce what Gorgon did as a nanosecond feat is utterly retarded. Comedian right here. Thor has dealt with speedsters who tried to bumrush him in the same exact way, with a single deft move. You don't like that Thor deals with speedsters who outclass and match Gorgon? Cry. More. Cry some more. Please... cry some more. You want feats? Read a phucking comic or a respect thread. That's what they're there for. You mad?

You mad. Not my fault your arguments were infantile. Sorry if you got the impression from other posters offering the same exact childish arguments non-stop for 60+ pages that they were somehow immune to deconstruction. Cry more. And watch where you step, you're drippin anal blood.

you are talking about wit?you think you are smart? sorry you are just like your screen name which is one dumb, you are trying to lowbow gorgon feat which proves he is faster than a speedster i didntuse full colculation to colculate how fast that was but being able to cut the arms of a speedster while the speedster was attacking him with his speed powers proving him to be faster at reflex and movement than a speedster

when did thor ever do anything like that? when did thor ever avoid or counter an attack from a speedster while the speedster was using his powers? show me , thor got blitzed by king hyperion and by gladiator when theywere trying to use there speed so his speed fails i brought you 2 examples of characters using there speed and blitzing thor now you show me proof of thor avoiding a blitz or reacting when someone was actually USING HIS SUPER HUMAN SPEEDON HIM

i can see you are obsessed with anal blood it sounds like you experienced that and talking out of experience

^ You're just trying to differentiate what Gorgon did to Yo-Yo as if it were different than what Thor did to Hermes (twice), Juvan, Zefra, etc. Spectacular job phailing. Also, you obviously can't spell when you mad. And boy, you mad right now.

Seriously, I didn't realize having your #1 Gorgon speed feat brushed aside so easily would result in such berserker rage. This is about the time retard strength kicks in. We all better watch out.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I get it....

Step 1 = Ask for scans
Step 2 = Makes excuses for why they don't count
Step 2.5 = Feel hurt in butt.
Step 3 = Claim it's PIS
Step 4 = Claim it's the hammer
Step 4.5 = Feel blood dripping from butt.
Step 5 = Strawman
Step 6 = Ignore what the scans show
Step 6.5 = Create sock account to reflect rampant rectal hemorrhaging.
Step 7 = Claim scans haven't been posted
Step 8 = Ask for scans

BTW, slight adjustments made to reflect accuracy. Everybody in the thread and in future phail-bait threads should plan accordingly.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
oh great another one he doesnt understand context is it that ironic that there all belong to the thor wanking club? 🙄

No, I understand context perfectly fine. See, I read comics, actually, not just scrounge up scans and spout off some nonsense. The club I belong to is "comic book fan". Perhaps you should join.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
what? all he needs to do is swing mjolnir? give me a break when everhe is facing bricks that are stronger than him and take his hits like nothing why isnt he using his speed then? when facing kurse or hulk who he can see are able to overpower and over brawl him whyisnthe using his speed? is he that dumb? you are a lightweight fighting aheavy weight and you are not going to use your speed but just go blow for blow with him? thats retarded so eitherthor is dumbor you are dumb you choose what is it

Because Thor doesn't fight like how you think he should fight in order to possess super speed. The sooner you get it through your head that Thor doesn't have to speed blitz foes or leave behind an "after image" (which he's done numerous times) or fight like some kind of ninja, the sooner you can realize he possesses super speed. You've already admitted that Thor wins this fight anyhow. Admitting Thor has super speed is the next logical step. Don't be afraid. And don't insinuate other people are dumb when you can't put together a grammatically correct sentence. Bad move, son.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
no one said he is supposed to do acrobatis here superman doesnt use acrobatis he is using simple brawl but you see how he is using his speed and not flight speed but fighting speed by avoiding hits and many times blitzing his opponent with multiple punches , thor never displayed anything like that show me a fight where thor is avoiding hits from someone showing him moving faster in combat pace, show me thor delivering punches before his opponent can evenreact... you cant because HE CANT

Yeah, Thor doesn't speed blitz and no one is saying he does. So GTFO, thank you very much. Trying to compare Superman's fight speed to Thor's and somehow twisting it as to prove he's much slower than Wolverine is ridiculous and not worth discussing. Thor's a brawler, never said he wasn't. He's also a fast brawler who has beaten every super speedster who has tried to "blitz" him. Thor's tagged everyone from Logan to Hermes to Adam Warlock to Hyperion to Gladiator to Silver Surfer. He's fast and superhumanly so. Get over it. Ignore his feats more for all I care. You'll just get warned for trolling.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
now you are talking bullshit, thor not using the godblast because he IS holding back many timesand doesnt wantto killhis opponent thats logically, butnot using your speed when you are getting your ass kicked then why is he fighting in the first place? why is he throwing punches?thatdoesnt make any sense at all , what DOES make sense is the simple fact that thor just CANT do those things because in combat he is just a brawler

Only except all the other times Thor says "I'm not holding back" or "I'll use my full power to smite thee" or "feel the unfettered might of Mjolnir!" and he doesn't Godblast or Anti-Force someone to hell and back. Same reason why Superman doesn't use his speed against Grundy or Metallo and slugs it out with them while "not holding back". We all know he has it. Just like anyone with any sense knows or who has read Thor knows he has super speed and reaction time feats which utterly blow Logan out of the water. Feat for feat, Thor is beyond him and his pals.

Battlezone me if you don't agree with me.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ You're just trying to differentiate what Gorgon did to Yo-Yo as if it were different than what Thor did to Hermes (twice), Juvan, Zefra, etc. Spectacular job phailing. Also, you obviously can't spell when you mad. And boy, you mad right now.

Seriously, I didn't realize having your #1 Gorgon speed feat brushed aside so easily would result in such berserker rage. This is about the time retard strength kicks in. We all better watch out. BTW, slight adjustments made to reflect accuracy. Everybody in the thread and in future phail-bait threads should plan accordingly.

i get it you dont want to post any proof, you dont want to post any feats...yet you think you can keep debating with me on thin air?sorry wont work as i said before you either present what i asked for or admit you got owned

the only one here who is mad is you silly one talking about anal blood ....0_o

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
i get it you dont want to post any proof, you dont want to post any feats...yet you think you can keep debating with me on thin air?sorry wont work as i said before you either present what i asked for or admit you got owned
Originally posted by Silent Master
Step 7 = Claim scans haven't been posted
Step 8 = Ask for scans

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
i get it you dont want to post any proof, you dont want to post any feats...yet you think you can keep debating with me on thin air?sorry wont work as i said before you either present what i asked for or admit you got owned

the only one here who is mad is you silly one talking about anal blood ....0_o

Read a phucking respect thread or a comic. Obviously you talking about Gorgon's feat (and not posting it at all) and then measuring it in nanoseconds somehow can be taken at face value while everybody else must slavishly post a feat that has already been referenced multiple times in this thread and in respect threads. Double-standard much? Or were you just that oblivious?

Also... you not mad anymore? Remembering to spell and abating the retard berserker rage now? Good for you. Trying to deflect from your utter dismantling with some allusion towards gay humor? Predictable. That usually occurs right around the time you apply ointment and are done crying. Be proud of yourself, this be progress. You're going through the six stages of grief right now.

Originally posted by Warlord
Oh com on Battlezone it already!!!!!

😂

Wolverine brings out the best in people.

I asked for a battle zone like 30 pages ago. Jinzin doesn't have the time unfortunately. This topic ran it's course a while back.