The Gorgon and Omega Red vs Thor in Melee Fight

Started by Warlord117 pages

One might think that with so many guys on the Wolvie camp, one could make it and accept the BZ

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😂

Wolverine brings out the best in people.

I asked for a battle zone like 30 pages ago. Jinzin doesn't have the time unfortunately. This topic ran it's course a while back.

This thread still has several more nuggets of comedy gold to produce. Even I'm surprised. So why stop now? We got retard rage mode fully active with a sock account here. I can only imagine the underlying butt hurt involved. It doesn't get much better than this.

Wolverine wins.

Wait...

Everything that needs to be said has already been said, no point in chipping in.

Originally posted by Mindset
Wolverine wins.

Wait...

Right now you are thinking Wolvie is not in this thread...

I can assure you he is 😉

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You just don't get it, ODG.

We're supposed to take all of Logan's speed feats and auto-assume they outshine Thor's. Furthermore, as Gorgon and OR are Wolvie-centric foes, we can replace their own feats with Wolverine and give them the same benefit of the doubt. So what that you, Rage, myself, Silent Master, and others provide concrete examples? WTF does that matter?

Thor is the slowest one there is. He can't fight on Superman or Wonder Woman's level of speed in combat and he said Wolverine was too fast even though he grabbed him just after that admission. To hell with your proof and scans!

there's actually so much truth in this post that without the sarcasm, this post would be full of WIN!

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'd love to see a Battlezone go down with a host of judges at the ready to settle this shit.
it would be difficult to find unbiased judges

most people tend to think...thor (a god) vs logan (a mutant) and basically automatically award thor the win

they'd prob ignore the logan side's arguments, however sensible

Originally posted by Silent Master
I get it....

Step 1 = Ask for scans
Step 2 = Makes excuses for why they don't count
Step 3 = Claim it's PIS
Step 4 = Claim it's the hammer
Step 5 = Strawman
Step 6 = Ignore what the scans show
Step 7 = Claim scans haven't been posted
Step 8 = Ask for scans

and for backers of thor's speed, its like this

step 1 - claims thor's fast because he fights really fast opponents (ie surfer, gladiator)

step 2 - dismisses the fact that said opponents don't use speed when they fight thor, and when they do use speed, usually overwhelm thor, but usually forget to continue using speed

step 3 - claim thor's speed struggles (ie vs logan) is PIS

step 4 - claim thor's speed struggles (ie vs logan) doesn't make sense

step 5 - start attacking the opposing side as trolls

step 6 - struggle to produce more than 2 scans affirmatively showing thor's speed feats

step 7 - repeat step 5

step 8 - repeat step 7

Originally posted by Starscream M

step 2 - dismisses the fact that said opponents don't use speed when they fight thor, and when they do use speed, usually overwhelm thor, but usually forget to continue using speed

Didn't they produce scans of Thor taking out super speedsters?

Originally posted by Starscream M

step 3 - claim thor's speed struggles (ie vs logan) is PIS

step 4 - claim thor's speed struggles (ie vs logan) doesn't make sense

Its been stated he holds back?

Originally posted by Starscream M

step 6 - struggle to produce more than 2 scans affirmatively showing thor's speed feats

Whats scans with afterimages? So Doomsday doesn't have superspeed now?

Originally posted by jinzin
Give me an example of one fight where Thor's depicted as fighting at superspeed.

Nobody's lowballing, compared to his career they are.

Oh man I don't want a scan war.

Originally posted by jinzin
They don't have to specifically exclude superspeed, since superspeed is not one of his powers that's included in his powerset in the first place.

He does have superhuman speed and reflexes...

Originally posted by jinzin

If Thor fought at superspeed, he could easily evade and contain opponents whom he fights without having to worry about hurting them at all/as much.

Like how he does with superspeedsters?

Originally posted by jinzin

It's a massive disadvantage against enemies who don't. He may be gravely injured or restrained by coils and unable to "go ape"

I doubt he'll be gravely injured, even if he gets restrained OR is still attached to the coils and there are was of dealing with it.

Originally posted by Deadline
Didn't they produce scans of Thor taking out super speedsters?

Its been stated he holds back?

Whats scans with afterimages? So Doomsday doesn't have superspeed now?

1 - not really. also taking out a speedster who isn't using speed shows nothing.

2 - any more excuses? he holds back his power, not his speed...he hasn't much to hold back in that regard.

3 - superman has commented on how fast DD is. thats better than afterimages. Has ANYONE ever been surprised by thor's speed...anyone? I mean thor has about 1000x more showings than DD, surely he impressed someone with his vaunted speed? maybe he's just to humble

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsWreckingCrew14.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsWreckingCrew15.jpg
….Thou art but a petty annoyance!

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/JuggernautvsThor6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/JuggernautvsThor7.jpg
Tis a blow which I can easily evade! My patience is at an end! No longer shall I suffer the indignities of thy taunting tongue or savage fists!

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsAbsorbingMan31.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsAbsorbingMan32.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsAbsorbingMan34.jpg
How can I fight 'Im? He's everywhere at once!!

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsAbsorbingMan19.jpg
"He moves too fast--He's out-fighting me--!"

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DodgesThing.jpg
Huh? How’dja dodge that haymaker?

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor1fight10.jpg
Huh??! Where did he go?

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor1fight8.jpg
I must move with blinding speed. Though there may be some question about which of us is the stronger….There can be no doubt as to who has the greater speed!

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsWarlockandSilverSurfer6.jpg
He moves like the lightning he commands, much quicker than I remembered.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorspeed1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Thorspeed2.jpg
His speed, his anger, are beyond comprehension. I cannot stop him! I cannot touch him!

Originally posted by Starscream M
1 - not really. also taking out a speedster who isn't using speed shows nothing.

2 - any more excuses? he holds back his power, not his speed...he hasn't much to hold back in that regard.

3 - superman has commented on how fast DD is. thats better than afterimages. Has ANYONE ever been surprised by thor's speed...anyone? I mean thor has about 1000x more showings than DD, surely he impressed someone with his vaunted speed? maybe he's just to humble

Are you retarded? How are Hermes, Juvan, Zefra not using speed in the scans?

Your choices are, you're retarded or just blind. Rage.Of.Olympus just reposted several feats that he already posted pages ago. Here's a couple more I have handy that only deal with people being surprised by Thor's speed:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed05Avengers006.jpg
"I've never seen such speed... such power!!"

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorAgility01JIM106.jpg
"It's impossible!! Nothing human could stop short so fast!!"

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
that makes you ignorant again because you dont follow the context of my posts and cant understand wtf am i talking about, my point is that thor can take the majority but i actually presented a vision based on pure feats of what can happen in that fight and how gorgon can actually beat thor also (omega red is not a factor in hand 2 hand vs thor), unlike some very smart people here who just say "OHHH THOR PUNCH GROUND TEAM KO"

IOW, Thor wins.

Originally posted by Starscream M
1 - not really. also taking out a speedster who isn't using speed shows nothing.

See the scans again.

Originally posted by Starscream M

2 - any more excuses? he holds back his power, not his speed...he hasn't much to hold back in that regard.

Its been stated that he holds back and the statements didn't exclude speed. Rage has psoted scans that indicate he does hold back in speed.

Originally posted by Starscream M

3 - superman has commented on how fast DD is. thats better than afterimages. Has ANYONE ever been surprised by thor's speed...anyone? I mean thor has about 1000x more showings than DD, surely he impressed someone with his vaunted speed? maybe he's just to humble

People with superhuman speed have commented on how fast he is.

it's neverending...that's what it is

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Are you retarded? How are Hermes, Juvan, Zefra not using speed in the scans?

Your choices are, you're retarded or just blind. Rage.Of.Olympus just reposted several feats that he already posted pages ago. Here's a couple more I have handy that only deal with people being surprised by Thor's speed:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed05Avengers006.jpg
"I've never seen such speed... such power!!"

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorAgility01JIM106.jpg
"It's impossible!! Nothing human could stop short so fast!!"

I apologize...I didn't see the scans...this thread is too big to follow every point.

I'm going to analyze rage's scans and get back with an updated opinion on thor's speed.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
No, I understand context perfectly fine. See, I read comics, actually, not just scrounge up scans and spout off some nonsense. The club I belong to is "comic book fan". Perhaps you should join.

Because Thor doesn't fight like how you think he should fight in order to possess super speed. The sooner you get it through your head that Thor doesn't have to speed blitz foes or leave behind an "after image" (which he's done numerous times) or fight like some kind of ninja, the sooner you can realize he possesses super speed. You've already admitted that Thor wins this fight anyhow. Admitting Thor has super speed is the next logical step. Don't be afraid. And don't insinuate other people are dumb when you can't put together a grammatically correct sentence. Bad move, son.

Yeah, Thor doesn't speed blitz and no one is saying he does. So GTFO, thank you very much. Trying to compare Superman's fight speed to Thor's and somehow twisting it as to prove he's much slower than Wolverine is ridiculous and not worth discussing. Thor's a brawler, never said he wasn't. He's also a fast brawler who has beaten every super speedster who has tried to "blitz" him. Thor's tagged everyone from Logan to Hermes to Adam Warlock to Hyperion to Gladiator to Silver Surfer. He's fast and superhumanly so. Get over it. Ignore his feats more for all I care. You'll just get warned for trolling.

Only except all the other times Thor says "I'm not holding back" or "I'll use my full power to smite thee" or "feel the unfettered might of Mjolnir!" and he doesn't Godblast or Anti-Force someone to hell and back. Same reason why Superman doesn't use his speed against Grundy or Metallo and slugs it out with them while "not holding back". We all know he has it. Just like anyone with any sense knows or who has read Thor knows he has super speed and reaction time feats which utterly blow Logan out of the water. Feat for feat, Thor is beyond him and his pals.

Battlezone me if you don't agree with me.

i am sure you read comics but it doesnt change the fact you are a thor fanboy 🙂

wait wait...you are saying thor doesnt fight the way i want him to fight but all i asked for was feats of him showing any real super speed while fighting by either blitzing someone or avoiding hits from super fast beings and you call it "fight the way i want him to fight"? are you really that stupid? thats not fighting the way i want him to fight thats the way to fight if you do have super human speed in combat and movement just face palm yourself for me will you

i am not trying to compare supermans fighting speed to thors but i am stating examples of what a fighting with superhuman speed should look like and thor never provided anything near or close to that so again prove me being wrong by feats and not by avoiding the target, i never said he should do flipsand ninja moves but move at super human combat movement and show super human reflex like countering hits from super fast beings or blitzing someone and proving his speed is superiour which he may have done 1-2 times in his entire career which is safe to call PIS

dont bring superman into this because superman unlike thor got feats to provehe DOES have combat speed and reflex on those levels but thor has non so leave your ABC logic at home and bring up facts

ok, I've looked at the scans.

and seriously all I have to say is LOL.

ODG, rage, this is seriously the best you got?

Thor dodging a buncha bulky slow-witted tanks?

and all from about a coupla decades ago (hint: thor today is not the same thor from back then...he's in many ways less godly and more mortal)

Good to see that people are still following the steps.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Good to see that people are still following the steps.
I'm sorry, but wrecker, juggernaut, hulk (back then), and absorbing man don't have a full brain among them combined

them being flustered isn't all that impressive

in comparison: DD flustered SUPERMAN