The Gorgon and Omega Red vs Thor in Melee Fight

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Are you talking about this scene:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsHermes1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsHermes2.jpg

Not sure if anyone's used that as evidence. I certainly haven't.

Question: Would that tactic be banned? How about Thor spinning Mjolnir and creating a barrier?

this is mjolnir feat you see thor spining mjolnir then after he catches hermes he is landing which shows us he used mjolnir to fly and gain the speed to do so again mjolnir did all the work for him

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Question: Would that tactic be banned? How about Thor spinning Mjolnir and creating a barrier?

if the barrier is the result of a power being activated when he spins the hammer, then it wouldn't be allowed under the stipulations

I don't think any power has been attributed to Mjolnir's spun barriers. I can't think of any.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
this is mjolnir feat you see thor spining mjolnir then after he catches hermes he is landing which shows us he used mjolnir to fly and gain the speed to do so again mjolnir did all the work for him

*Sigh*

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Leave it open for another week. I think we could hit a new record.

Besides, there's at least two posts I haven't replied to yet.

Yea, I'm not getting into a debate with a sock.

You're post had no actual content to reply to. ODG posted the scan for a reason. He even quoted the important part. Thor moved in a way that no human could match. That was the point. Posting a paragraph that addresses nothing and is little more than childish rambling isn't debating.

Lol what? thor moving? i see him lifting his arm and letting the bullet fly under his armpit Lol, lets asume for a second thor did get out of the way so? how many people you see getting avoid shots? street levelers when waking up in the morning while brushing there teeth, again thor didnt move his entire body it wasnt even a full movement

so wait a second here is another proof you thor fan(boy)s are hypocrites, when thor himself stated wolverine is faster you cry that you shouldnt take anything that is writen as it is... but when thor is half avoiding some gun shot from centeries ago and someone states its beyond humanly suddenly we believe that? hypocrite much?

Dude. Common. You're not even on the right scan. I'm referring to the scene with Hyde, where he comments on Thor supposedly moving inhumanly and Thor then pointing out that his far more than human. I didn't post the scan but I'm telling you why ODG did as far as I can tell. It being Hyde was not the point.

I like how Thor stating Wolverine is faster is proof about him being slow while two months ago when he states he can easily deal with faster than Quicksilver opponents (and does so with Quicksilver), it’s just hyperbole

Originally posted by Warlord
I like how Thor stating Wolverine is faster is proof about him being slow while two months ago when he states he can easily deal with faster than Quicksilver opponents (and does so with Quicksilver), it’s just hyperbole

he dealt quicksilver with his powers and we are talking about combat speed context please

Originally posted by Warlord
I like how Thor stating Wolverine is faster is proof about him being slow while two months ago when he states he can easily deal with faster than Quicksilver opponents (and does so with Quicksilver), it’s just hyperbole

1) wolverine is faster than thor - fact

2) thor can deal with wolverine - fact

both are true

as rage said, even though gorgon is quite a bit faster than thor, thor can still use the ground pound technique like he did to quicksilver to compensate

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Dude. Common. You're not even on the right scan. I'm referring to the scene with Hyde, where he comments on Thor supposedly moving inhumanly and Thor then pointing out that his far more than human. I didn't post the scan but I'm telling you why ODG did as far as I can tell. It being Hyde was not the point.

it doesnt change the things i stated, so now we should believe that? i care about what we see ON PANEL and on panel we see thor being faster than mister hyde who is a dumb slow brick and gets abused and molested by street levelelrs you fail

if you look at the scan andreadi it mister hyde is saying no one fights like that it doesnt mean he reffered to the speed, he didnt say no one can be that fast or something just said no one fights like that so any other speculations are out of the window here

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Are you talking about this scene:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsHermes1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ReactsHermes2.jpg

Not sure if anyone's used that as evidence. I certainly haven't.

Question: Would that tactic be banned? How about Thor spinning Mjolnir and creating a barrier?

Pillar of Osiris posted that scan in the post I first responded to, and One Dumb referenced it when he was trying to point out times Thor has dealt with speedsters, as if Thor's ever dealt with Hermes without the use of his hammer. And yes, Thor using Mjolnir to attain superspeed was banned at the beginning of this thread.

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
he dealt quicksilver with his powers and we are talking about combat speed context please

Thor used a ground and pound tactic.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsQuicksilver2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsQuicksilver3.jpg
"And I have vanquished fleeter foes than you, before your kind was blessed with the divine spark!"

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
he dealt quicksilver with his powers and we are talking about combat speed context please

He dealed with Quicksilver with a ground slam.
Quicksilver was fast enough to doge his lightning but not this blow.

There’s your context

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor used a ground and pound tactic.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsQuicksilver2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsQuicksilver3.jpg
"And I have vanquished fleeter foes than you, before your kind was blessed with the divine spark!"

you got there first... damn

Originally posted by Ize19
Pillar of Osiris posted that scan in the post I first responded to, and One Dumb referenced it when he was trying to point out times Thor has dealt with speedsters, as if Thor's ever dealt with Hermes without the use of his hammer. And yes, Thor using Mjolnir to attain superspeed was banned at the beginning of this thread.

I think PoO just copy and pasted the respect thread. Not sure about ODG. Perhaps he meant to post Zuras or some such. Whatever.

What does attaining super speed include exactly?

Originally posted by optic_blast!!!
it doesnt change the things i stated, so now we should believe that? i care about what we see ON PANEL and on panel we see thor being faster than mister hyde who is a dumb slow brick and gets abused and molested by street levelelrs you fail

if you look at the scan andreadi it mister hyde is saying no one fights like that it doesnt mean he reffered to the speed, he didnt say no one can be that fast or something just said no one fights like that so any other speculations are out of the window here

I don't care whether you believe it or not. For the last time, I'm explaining to you why I think ODG posted the scan as you were clearly having problems contemplating an answer.

For god sakes, ODG quoted the damn statement that had relevance. Hyde said:
"It's impossible!! Nothing human could stop short so fast!!"

Clearly a reference to speed. That's all there is to it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think PoO just copy and pasted the respect thread. Not sure about ODG. Perhaps he meant to post Zuras or some such. Whatever.

What does attaining super speed include exactly?

Nah, he actually referrenced Thor grabbing Hermes by the scruff of the neck, so it's clear he was referring to that instance.

Basically, if he's throwing Mjolnir, or it's using it's powers to spin, then it's not his speed, and not usable. Nobody is arguing that with Mjolnir granting him light speed, Gorgon and Omega Red are too much for him.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

What does attaining super speed include exactly?

artistically, after images or blurs often indicate a character using some level of enhanced speed

logically, if a characters does something beyond what you'd think a peak human is capable of (ie deflecting machine gun fire with a thin sword)

Originally posted by Ize19
Nah, he actually referrenced Thor grabbing Hermes by the scruff of the neck, so it's clear he was referring to that instance.

Basically, if he's throwing Mjolnir, or it's using it's powers to spin, then it's not his speed, and not usable. Nobody is arguing that with Mjolnir granting him light speed, Gorgon and Omega Red are too much for him.

K then. Maybe his point is that he still had to react at super speed to grab him by the scruff of his neck.

Using Mjolnir's powers to spin? ermm

I didn't fully read your reply. You're still on that point? Thor spins Mjolnir extremely fast due to his own physical strength. It's also the reason why he can spin his actual body at trans light speeds. Or why his swung it at impressive speeds. If the ability to this was innate to Mjolnir's, it wouldn't extend to his own physical body. It should be noted that based on their relationship, Thor could command it to move at incredible speeds.

Mjolnir granting him light speed? Are you referring purely to travel speed?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor used a ground and pound tactic.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsQuicksilver2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/DefeatsQuicksilver3.jpg
"And I have vanquished fleeter foes than you, before your kind was blessed with the divine spark!"

how the hell does it proves speed? it just a strength feat shows us the impact of the blow and its not even thors strength feat but mjolnir again you fail

I'll leave it open for the moment, but optic_blast!!!, you're going to have to tone down the personal attacks.