Deathstroke vs Havok

Havok wins.

I'm going to use the new way of debating here and point out that there's nothing that says the match doesn't start with Slade looking at Havok's head through a sniper scope with his finger on the trigger. dur

slade's got superspeed. these quickdraws suck. could alex get a blast off before ds kills him? maybe. ds's reflex speed is PROVEN though so i'd certainly favor the guy with the proof. best case for alex is they both die i think. an monidirectional blast to kill someone is likely out of character for alex though. fighting in character IS still something that takes place under the new rules, right?

Slade having "superspeed" won't make the projectiles move faster, which means Alex will still have time to trigger his power.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Slade having "superspeed" won't make the projectiles move faster, which means Alex will still have time to trigger his power.

Has havok omniblasted someone from half a kilometer away before? I know he CAN, but does he do it as a battle tactic in comics?

If the omniblast DOES get out, Havoc wins as he's likely to vaporize the bullet w/in the omniblast before it hits him.

Originally posted by superbatman86
No he won't.Bullets move way faster than the average human speed of thought.Especially DS's which are made to take out meta humans.

Bullets also disintegrate faster than a thought too...just like Slade.

Havok more likely than not wins.

I'd have to go with Deathstroke here. Havok certainly has the powerset but a fast-draw bullet to the brain with the quickness would win out about 9 times out of 10...

Fastest bullet (in existence) would be about 4000 feet per second or about 1212 m/s (nearly Mach 4). From the looks of it, at 500 meters starting distance, Havoc gets half a second to think "omniblast".

This is a rifle bullet, tho. Most pistols slugs are fired at 1/4th this speed or over 400m/s. W/c would give Havoc far more time to think Omniblast.

Either way, I'd think that half a second would be enough time to think "omniblast" before the bullet hits him. This would then vaporize the bullet before it hits and poor ol' Slade, too.

That is, assuming Slade uses bullets based on RL physics. Does he have any feats wherein his bullets are moving at speeds beyond this?

He's got energy weapons too. Like his staff. And even if Havok got the omniblast out, Slade could dodge or possibly tank it. And even an omniblast won't stop his staff.

So is this a quickdraw match or something?

I don't know I would just see Havok trying to talk first, whereas the hired-to-gun Deathstroke would take no chances...

Been a while since I've been here so I'm rusty on the rules.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He's got energy weapons too. Like his staff. And even if Havok got the omniblast out, Slade could dodge or possibly tank it. And even an omniblast won't stop his staff.

Well, staff could def work. Don't know enough about Slade to debate this point (tho he's possibly the very first villain I've ever read about in my very first comic book back when I was 7, lol), so I'll just let the more knowledgeable posters debate this point. 🙂

DS would still have to think, draw, aim, fire and the beam would have to reach Alex.....That would still give Alex enough time to think "blast".

What I want to know is if Havok has precedence for just omniblasting right from the getgo.

Is he someone who kills without hesitation?

Because unless he takes out Deathstroke when the bell rings with an omniblast, Slade will take him down.

AFAIK, Alex has as much precedence of omniblasting from the start as Slade does of shooting people in the head from the start.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
What I want to know is if Havok has precedence for just omniblasting right from the getgo.

Is he someone who kills without hesitation?

Because unless he takes out Deathstroke when the bell rings with an omniblast, Slade will take him down.

Well, to be fair, the basic form of Havoc's power is a plasma wave that expands outwards. He has to focus the energy to blast specific targets (w/c he does a lot). Also, he's killed quite few ppl in WoK w/o hesitation.

Is Slade's staff heat based or concussion based?

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Well, to be fair, the basic form of Havoc's power is a plasma wave that expands outwards. He has to focus the energy to blast specific targets (w/c he does a lot). Also, he's killed quite few ppl in WoK w/o hesitation.

Is Slade's staff heat based or concussion based?

CIS can give DS the win (as usual). but if they were both to resort to killing from the get go. I'd say, Havok can activate his powers faster than deathstroke can draw the gun and shoot him.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm not sure. It seems to be concussive most of the time.

Well, if it's concussion, then it certainly stands a good chance to take down Havoc if it hits (as heat is not the best weapon vs Havoc). Has he used the staff in the past for med-long ranged combat?

Deathstroke should win this.