Originally posted by D_Dude1210
500 meters. 🙂
Deathstroke certainly has the marksmanship to pull such a shot off, the real question is what the effective range of his bo-staff is. I can't remember him ever using it for long range combat, its mostly a short range GTFO!1! weapon for dealing with annoying speedsters and mooks :3
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Idk then.Deathstroke certainly has the marksmanship to pull such a shot off, the real question is what the effective range of his bo-staff is. I can't remember him ever using it for long range combat, its mostly a short range GTFO!1! weapon for dealing with annoying speedsters and mooks :3
Battle starts at 500 meters by default, tho.
Originally posted by Existere
How far away was that helicopter when blew it up with the staff's concussion blast?
I was looking at that, too. From the art, I'd say no more than 100 meters tops.
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Originally posted by Silent Master
Where does it say that Havok has to "build up" before he can blast?And even if it's true, DS would still have to think, aim, fire and the blast would have to reach Alex...that is going to take more than a second or two.
AFAIK, Alex doesnt ever start out at "max charge"; most of the appearances Ive seen w/him have shown him to have SOME amount of energy stored, but rarely enuff that he's annihilating EVERYTHING around him.
and saying that DS would have to "think, aim, fire and the blast would have to reach Alex" is far less of a problem for *him* than it is Havok.........
Originally posted by long pig
whoever strikes first wins. and i think only one thinks, moves and reacts faster than speed of thought. i i'd say mr 'before your brain can send an impulse to twitch your little finger i can put you down' seems pretty fast on the drawto me. this fight is essentially a quick draw contest and DS is one of the fastest draws in comics. ds puts a hole in his head before havok can even think to omniblast.
I can agree w/the underlined..........
Tazer
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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Deathstroke's speed and accuracy is being severely overestimated in this thread, he couldn't "quick draw" Deadshot standing 20 feet apart... but he puts a bullet in Alex's head from 500 meter's away before Alex can even think about blasting him? Get real.
that DS is an expert marksman is a matter of comic record; 1 bad showing doesnt negate that.
also, if U factor in muzzle velocity for the various weapons he's used over the years...........then sure, why not?
Tazer
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Fastest bullet (in existence) would be about 4000 feet per second or about 1212 m/s (nearly Mach 4). From the looks of it, at 500 meters starting distance, Havoc gets half a second to think "omniblast".This is a rifle bullet, tho. Most pistols slugs are fired at 1/4th this speed or over 400m/s. W/c would give Havoc far more time to think Omniblast.
Either way, I'd think that half a second would be enough time to think "omniblast" before the bullet hits him. This would then vaporize the bullet before it hits and poor ol' Slade, too.
That is, assuming Slade uses bullets based on RL physics. Does he have any feats wherein his bullets are moving at speeds beyond this?
Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.if its that close, it might be better for Slade to use a his sidearm; if he uses a snipers rifle its pretty much an auto-win at that distance.
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500 meters is like five foot ball fields. That isn't "close," in fact it is 5-10 times or more outside the effective distance of most hand guns. It would literally be impossible to make that shot with a side arm.
Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.that DS is an expert marksman is a matter of comic record; 1 bad showing doesnt negate that.
also, if U factor in muzzle velocity for the various weapons he's used over the years...........then sure, why not?
Tazer
Slade isn't Deadshot, Green Arrow, Hawkeye or Bullseye, he doesn't have any feats of expert marksman ship worth talking about. One time he tried to make a shot from 2k away... and he missed. He's good, he's not on par with the big dogs.
Originally posted by Silent MasterObviously.
Exactly, if Deathstroke wins, it's because Alex was holding back.
Nobody's arguing that there would be much of a battle if Alex were to go all out from the get go.
But, taking personality and character traits into account, that wouldn't happen.
I'd argue that Slade would be more likely to shoot Alex before he got pegged with one of Alex's blasts, and that Alex wouldn't try anything particularly fancy before he was shot.
Originally posted by Existere
Obviously.Nobody's arguing that there would be much of a battle if Alex were to go all out from the get go.
But, taking personality and character traits into account, that wouldn't happen.
I'd argue that Slade would be more likely to shoot Alex before he got pegged with one of Alex's blasts, and that Alex wouldn't try anything particularly fancy before he was shot.
Try rereading the first couple pages, that is exactly what they've been saying.
Originally posted by Existere
Sorry, which part of their posts was I supposed to be reading?The parts that said that whoever hit first would win?
The parts that doubted Alex opening with an omnidirectional blast?
Please point out where in these posts they are questioning whether Alex would use the omniblast
Originally posted by long pig
whoever strikes first wins. and i think only one thinks, moves and reacts faster than speed of thought. i i'd say mr 'before your brain can send an impulse to twitch your little finger i can put you down' seems pretty fast on the drawto me. this fight is essentially a quick draw contest and DS is one of the fastest draws in comics. ds puts a hole in his head before havok can even think to omniblast.
Originally posted by long pig
why does he need to close distance. he carries a friggin cannon with him. plus after studying havoc a bit and it seems he has to build up before a blast like that. even if it's only a second or two it may as well be hours. Remember what was his ex wife said in #0, and i quote, 'He says he sees things slower than us normal people. Every minute is like an hour to him ' Do i believe that's litteral? no. but it gets the point across.
Originally posted by leonidas
quickdraw as the piggy said. if it comes down to that, ds does indeed put a bullet in alex's brain. if ds can't use his range weapon, alex wins 10/10
Originally posted by long pig
Not if he's drawing on a guy who can blast him before that thought can register.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Prove Alex has superspeed period. We know Deathstroke does.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
When the other guy dodges bullets and has wins against the Flash. 😐
Originally posted by superbatman86
No he won't.Bullets move way faster than the average human speed of thought.Especially DS's which are made to take out meta humans.
Originally posted by Blight
I'd have to go with Deathstroke here. Havok certainly has the powerset but a fast-draw bullet to the brain with the quickness would win out about 9 times out of 10...