Deathstroke vs Havok

Originally posted by Silent Master
Please point out where in these posts they are questioning whether Alex would use the omniblast

One post mentioned that Slade could shoot Alex before he could omniblast, which may or may not be true, and is still equally irrelevant. I'm not sure how anything that you're saying is actually contributing to the discussion topic of:

Can Slade take down Havok when Havok is decidedly not omniblasting?

I mean, congrats- you found a post that referenced an omniblast. Do you therefore feel validated that your post asserting something about a version of Havok not present in this battle was actually contributing?

If not, my point stands, and we can move forward with the actual thread.

Yet, they are discussing Slade going "all out" as he almost never starts out fights in the comics by going for head shots.

I've seen him fight Flash, Impulse, Batman, Nightwing, Bat-girl, Arsenal, the JLA, Titans and IIRC Manhunter(Paul) without starting with that tactic.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yet, they are discussing Slade going "all out" as he almost never starts out fights in the comics by going for head shots.

I've seen him fight Flash, Impulse, Batman, Nightwing, Bat-girl, Arsenal, the JLA, Titans and IIRC Manhunter(Paul) without starting with that tactic.

Take a fight like that, for instance. Slade was avoiding killing Geoforce (as he says, on panel, as Geoforce is an investment), but he immediately starts the fight by dropping the man 20 stories, and then impaling him twice. He always fought with maximum force, which can't be said about Havok.

Between the two of them, Slade is the known murderer, and if the plot doesn't require his opponents to live and it's within his power to end the conflict with a bullet or a sword, he will.

IOW, it's not a tactic that Slade actually uses, as my list of fights where he didn't use it suggests.

You're just going to hand-wave it.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Slade isn't Deadshot, Green Arrow, Hawkeye or Bullseye, he doesn't have any feats of expert marksman ship worth talking about. One time he tried to make a shot from 2k away... and he missed. He's good, he's not on par with the big dogs.

Yo.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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500 meters is like five foot ball fields. That isn't "close," in fact it is 5-10 times or more outside the effective distance of most hand guns. It would literally be impossible to make that shot with a side arm.

not for somebody w/his physical stats AND a bionic eye......... 😉

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Slade isn't Deadshot, Green Arrow, Hawkeye or Bullseye, he doesn't have any feats of expert marksman ship worth talking about. One time he tried to make a shot from 2k away... and he missed. He's good, he's not on par with the big dogs.

500m is less than 2km, so I dont think thats a good analogy to disqualify him not being able to peg a target. 😉

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

not for somebody w/his physical stats AND a bionic eye......... 😉

500m is less than 2km, so I dont think thats a good analogy to disqualify him not being able to peg a target. 😉

Tazer

Then you should have no trouble finding a scan where he makes a shot from at least 500 meters.

Yo.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yet, they are discussing Slade going "all out" as he almost never starts out fights in the comics by going for head shots.

I've seen him fight Flash, Impulse, Batman, Nightwing, Bat-girl, Arsenal, the JLA, Titans and IIRC Manhunter(Paul) without starting with that tactic.

he doesnt HAVE TO take a headshot to win this since Havok isnt bulletproof; a chest shot takes him down unless he's wearing that special weave of clothing the Xmen had during Lee's run of the Xmen in the 90s........... 😉

Tazer

Originally posted by Silent Master
[hand-waves it]

You're just going to hand-wave it.

Yo.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Then you should have no trouble finding a scan where he makes a shot from at least 500 meters.

do U have a scan where Havok takes out *anybody* uning the omniblast as a starting tactic? 😉

Tazer

Originally posted by MrMind
I remember in "villain united" deathstroke and deadshot shooting at each other and deathstroke shown to be the better marksman.

You are remembering wrong. They stood in front of each other and shot each other in the chest, for mutually assured destruction.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

not for somebody w/his physical stats AND a bionic eye......... 😉

500m is less than 2km, so I dont think thats a good analogy to disqualify him not being able to peg a target. 😉

Tazer

It has nothing to do with the capabilities of the shooter, it is limitations of the gun.

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

do U have a scan where Havok takes out *anybody* uning the omniblast as a starting tactic? 😉

Tazer

I'm not the one that brought-up the tactic, that was rotiart and then long-pig said this was a quickdraw. My comments have been in regards to Alex's chances in a quickdraw type situation.

Now, do you agree that Alex would win a quickdraw?

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm not the one that brought-up the tactic, that was rotiart and then long-pig said this was a quickdraw. My comments have been in regards to Alex's chances in a quickdraw type situation.

Now, do you agree that Alex would win a quickdraw?

Please, outline.

Originally posted by Existere
Why would Alex win a quickdraw?

Please, outline.

In order for Slade to win a quick-draw, the following must happen

1) Think
2) Draw weapon
3) Aim weapon
4) Fire weapon
5) Projectile must reach Alex

In order for Alex to win a quick-draw, the following must happen

1) Think

Alex doesnt quick draw though, its not in his character. Slade wouldnt have an issue with it, thinks faster and he has faster reflexes.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Alex doesnt quick draw though, its not in his character. Slade wouldnt have an issue with it, thinks faster and he has faster reflexes.

So quickdraw is Slade's normal tactic?

Originally posted by Silent Master
In order for Slade to win a quick-draw, the following must happen

1) Think
2) Draw weapon
3) Aim weapon
4) Fire weapon
5) Projectile must reach Alex

In order for Alex to win a quick-draw, the following must happen

1) Think

The times, they are a-changin'.

Default distance from each other is .5 kilometers, 5000 metres (approximately 3.1 mi or 16404 ft). Slade can quick draw that.

For those who say Slade's gun cannot shoot that far.

http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view&current=NewTeenTitans010-09.jpg