Zoom vs Darkseid

I didn't deny that he can go through time...

Originally posted by Mindset
I could be mistaken, but I recall them explaining that he exists outside of "our" time, which would mean he is in a different timeline.

Do you have the scan where his powers are explained?

I don't have a scan of this, though I have a similar recollection, but that doesn't describe how his powers actively work, it seems to explain his relationship with time. Since being in another "timeline" doesn't stop him from interacting normally with people in the regular ol' timeline.

EDIT: I'm off to watch boxing, I'll continue this tomorrow probably.

Originally posted by Allankles
I think DS might have his number since Zoom's "speed" is based on time manipulation around his own space i.e. slowing down the effects of time on his body.

DS can manipulate relative time so he can probably even manipulate the effects of time on Zoom's body. DS has manipulated time around people in the past, leaving alone time jumping, he can increase the speed of time or bend time around a person.

i find your theory very interesting. Has darkside ever manipulated the time around a person who already has control over the time around him/her self ever before?

Well, I never thought the description made much sense, but that's what we were given. srug

Originally posted by Allankles
I think DS might have his number since Zoom's "speed" is based on time manipulation around his own space i.e. slowing down the effects of time on his body.

DS can manipulate relative time so he can probably even manipulate the effects of time on Zoom's body. DS has manipulated time around people in the past, leaving alone time jumping, he can increase the speed of time or bend time around a person.

An explanation of Zoom's powers

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-Zoom-
"My personal timeline is removed from this one. I control how fast or slow I move along the timeline":

DS pwns.

this one is impressive. after wally's massive speed steal, he finally sees zoom, at that point they are so fast that time nearly stops, in other words they are standing still in time.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
i find your theory very interesting. Has darkside ever manipulated the time around a person who already has control over the time around him/her self ever before?

Originally posted by Badabing
DS gets pwnt.

Personally, I am of the opinion that Darkseid COULD affect Zoom's time bubble. Omega powers aside, he was able to casually pluck Professor Stein from of the Firestorm Matrix, after all -- that alone demonstrates his cross-temporal/dimensional prowess.

However, I don't think he'd ever get the chance to muck with Zoom's time bubble. Thousands of Superman-level punches to the face delivered immediately as the battle begins, would surely take a toll on the big fella.

Sounds fair. That's how it is with Zoom, you could have a one kill shot but if you can't use it in time...

Originally posted by Galan007
Personally, I am of the opinion that Darkseid COULD affect Zoom's time bubble. Omega powers aside, he was able to casually pluck Professor Stein from of the Firestorm Matrix, after all -- that alone demonstrates his cross-temporal/dimensional prowess.

However, I don't think he'd ever get the chance to muck with Zoom's time bubble. Thousands of Superman-level punches to the face delivered immediately as the battle begins, would surely take a toll on the big fella.

fanboy.

Originally posted by Galan007
Personally, I am of the opinion that Darkseid COULD affect Zoom's time bubble. Omega powers aside, he was able to casually pluck Professor Stein from of the Firestorm Matrix, after all -- that alone demonstrates his cross-temporal/dimensional prowess.

However, I don't think he'd ever get the chance to muck with Zoom's time bubble. Thousands of Superman-level punches to the face delivered immediately as the battle begins, would surely take a toll on the big fella.

Why not fire an OE into the past and use it on him as the battle begins? See, Zoom's problem is he has stop Darkseid from taking a single action, whereas Darkseid only has to use his powers once to win this.

And Darkseid knows who Zoom is for a fact. We have a very reliable source for this. Libra. Libra knew who he was.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He depowered Secret, he's sent his Omega Effect to retrieve Kanto the moment Kanto-13 died by Kanto's hand. Darkseid has also perceived the timeline changes wrought in S/B by the LSH villains, he's sent Validus back in time, and depowered Validus, turning him back into a child. How did he know how to do this? Simple. Temporal perception. How about his assasinating Orion with the temporal radion bullet in FC?

my question was more based around how zoom basically has a bubble around him...or like an aura that allows him to control the time around him therefore being unaffected by most of the laws of relativity. he can move at tremendous speeds as an effect of this....my question didn't address weather darkside could time travel but affect the time around someone(like zoom) that can already control the time around himself.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Why not fire an OE into the past and use it on him as the battle begins? See, Zoom's problem is he has stop Darkseid from taking a single action, whereas Darkseid only has to use his powers once to win this.

And Darkseid knows who Zoom is for a fact. We have a very reliable source for this. Libra. Libra knew who he was.

Gtfo with this silly shit.

Edit: What the f*ck is wrong with my computer?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why doesn't Zoom travel back in time before Darkseid fires the Omega Beams and punch him in the face until he calls quarter?

Gtfo with this silly shit.

Zoom does not have time travel like that. And Darkseid is very precise with the OE. 2nd, He knows who he is fighting, of course he's going to go for the finish right off. He's got tons of options. Zoom has stop DS before DS can finish a single thought or action. That's the level he needs to stop Darkseid.

Edit: And he has used the OE like that before. Final Crisis, jackass.

zoom doesn't go back time so time travel won't work. but he doesn't need that to win anyway

Originally posted by MrMind
zoom doesn't go back time so time travel won't work. but he doesn't need that to win anyway

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Why not fire an OE into the past and use it on him as the battle begins? See, Zoom's problem is he has stop Darkseid from taking a single action, whereas Darkseid only has to use his powers once to win this.