Zoom vs Darkseid

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Zoom does not have time travel like that. And Darkseid is very precise with the OE. 2nd, He knows who he is fighting, of course he's going to go for the finish right off. He's got tons of options. Zoom has stop DS before DS can finish a single thought or action. That's the level he needs to stop Darkseid.

Edit: And he has used the OE like that before. Final Crisis, jackass.

haha jeeze calm down a bit it's a simple comic debate....anyways fine assuming darkside would have more control over zoom's powers then zoom himself then why would zoom give darkside the chance....why doesn't zoom simply slow time to almost a stand still and give darkside all of his best shots all rolled into one?

Galan: You consider Zoom that fast? That he can hit DS before DS has a single thought?

Do you believe Zoom could do this to Zeus or Odin?

The jackass was for rage's GTFO.

^Haha, please.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Zoom does not have time travel like that. And Darkseid is very precise with the OE. 2nd, He knows who he is fighting, of course he's going to go for the finish right off. He's got tons of options. Zoom has stop DS before DS can finish a single thought or action. That's the level he needs to stop Darkseid.

Edit: And he has used the OE like that before. Final Crisis, jackass.

Is this Eobard or Hunter? If it's not Eobard, then Hunter simply beats him to death before Darkseid can perform any action. It wouldn't be difficult.

I know exactly what happened in Final Crisis, but it doesn't change how stupid it is of you to argue it as a tactic here. Next we'll have people claiming Surfer sends his board back in time to kill an opponent and shit. Hopefully this silliness isn't contagious. This is a forum battle. Not a I-control-the-character battle.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He has before...

Black Zero: Galan already conceded that DS has the ability to depower Zoom, and as for the 2nd part; He can do that?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Is this Eobard or Hunter? If it's not Eobard, then Hunter simply beats him to death before Darkseid can perform any action. It would be pretty simple.

I know exactly what happened in Final Crisis, but it doesn't change how stupid it is of you to argue it as a tactic here. Next we'll have people claiming Surfer sends his board back in time to kill an opponent and shit. Hopefully this silliness isn't contagious.

it's hunter

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Zoom does not have time travel like that. And Darkseid is very precise with the OE. 2nd, He knows who he is fighting, of course he's going to go for the finish right off. He's got tons of options. Zoom has stop DS before DS can finish a single thought or action. That's the level he needs to stop Darkseid.

Edit: And he has used the OE like that before. Final Crisis, jackass.

Originally posted by MrMind
zoom doesn't go back time so time travel won't work. but he doesn't need that to win anyway

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Zoom does not have time travel like that.

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-Zoom-
"Feel the present pass us by, Thaddeus? Like standing on a rolling ball. You can control it":

Yup. Darkseid's boned.

like I said before
in theory, only 4 kinds of people can beat zoom
1. reality warpers
2. characters that zoom can't hurt
3. characters that can instantly reform themselves
4. toon force
however if we consider CIS, there could be more people that can beat zoom.
but with zoom's CIS off, I don't even see skyfather level can beat zoom. even characters like odin

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Galan: You consider Zoom that fast? That he can hit DS before DS has a single thought?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Black Zero: Galan already conceded that DS has the ability to depower Zoom, and as for the 2nd part; He can do that?

ok and that's the only question i was asking...not for debating reason but because i was wondering....and yes...zooms only real power is to control time....basically since he's a step outside of time he can wactually slow time and freeze it but not reverse it. his aura/bubble protects him from being affected(otherwise it would be like wally moving at light speed but not being able to process at the same speed. so in comics he looks fast because that's what it would seem like but he is actually moving normally and controlling the time around himself....if we were reading the book through zooms eyes then everyone else would seem to be standing still while hes moving normally....kind of the way clark moves in smallville...in that slow mo effects...the flash can only keep up because he's faster then time

Originally posted by Mindset
Actually, he can and has gone back in time.

Zoom has done it multiple times. Weren't Thanos supporters making the argument of removing his bubble? Even if it worked, he would have to contend with someone who moves as fast as they want, literally. He has no limits with his speed.

Originally posted by MrMind
like I said before
in theory, only 4 kinds of people can beat zoom
1. reality warpers
2. characters that zoom can't hurt
3. characters that can instantly reform themselves
4. toon force
however if we consider CIS, there could be more people that can beat zoom.
but with zoom's CIS off, I don't even see skyfather level can beat zoom. even characters like odin

When you get to characters like these, you literally have to be way out of their league to win. At this point it is either they stomp you or you stomp them, there is no even split.

Flash is borderline this too with CIS off.

Originally posted by MrMind
that writer doesn't understand zoom's power. he shouldn't be able to.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Because you say he can't?

And yet it is.

Originally posted by MrMind
no because time travel is not zoom's power

Look, I like DS a lot more than I like Zoom, but there's no point in trying to deny Zoom his powerset to give DS the nod here.

It's too easy to say Zoom trounces Thanos but then turn around and say Darkseid wins because you like him more.

Lol.

Originally posted by MrMind
that writer doesn't understand zoom's power. he shouldn't be able to.

"Like standing on a rolling ball. You can CONTROL it."