show me some evidence, evidence, and evidence

Started by Sadako of Girth52 pages

Originally posted by Pinkie Pie
You are asking us for proof. The proof you want is in the form of miracles. You are asking us for miracles 😛 If nothing short of a miracle suffice for you and you know that we can not preform this. Why do you even ask the question? You know we can not answer it in a way that is pleasing to you 🙂

God has nothing to prove to you. You have been presented his potential existence and refused it. You do not doubt, you do not plead ignorance. You refuse the possibility of God. Why should his presence grace you when there are those who need and those who want him?

If you do not believe in him, what reason does he have to believe in you? 🙂

Nope I saw no such evidence.

I have no reason to believe 'He' thinks anything of me...or any other human, let alone "Oh f**k Sadako, he doesnt like me". 😛

I think the possibility of a first cause thing out there might exist is miniscule.

I think that God as described by any and all religions so far is pure bunkum, because of the outrageousness of the claims they are never backed up.

My not liking religion has nothing to do with God's non appearance to anyone on earth.

Murder is not a display of power. Not in my world at least 😛

People do not fall to their knees at the sound of Mitzatusuesfsa's name. Many millions would fall to their knees at the sound of God 🙂 That is power to me.

Originally posted by WHAAM!
Well I just looked in my trousers Rob and I can tell you the great purple mitz is as real as it gets.

🙂

Na, what you saw in there was more like a raisin.

What's real though, is the number of Sock-Accounts this particular thread has attracted.

Quartz crystal has been around for a very long time. How long, no one knows for sure. We do know that crystals were formed in this Earth and suggest the mineral evolution of the planet. Their very being expresses the unity of the four ancient elements.

It is said that crystals and stones have been utilized for many purposes for over 100,000 years. The oldest legends of crystal power take us back to the ancient civilizations of Atlantis and Lemuria. It is believed that these people were of an advanced race that could harness and channel the power of crystals. These civilizations would use crystals as beacons of light that would serve as telepathic communications with their forefathers. The power of crystals was also used for many physical and practical purposes. It is believed that these civilizations were destroyed because trust of the sacred knowledge and power of these crystals was abused. However, before Atlantis was completely destroyed, some of the "wise ones" that had not abused this trust were able to program the knowledge that was needed for the human race to survive into crystals. Specific information was programmed into different types of crystals so that when the time was right, they would surface on this planet.

Lore has it that there were some survivors of Atlantis and that they were able to perpetuate the knowledge and power of crystals to the root civilizations of Egypt, South America, and Tibet. It is said that the Great Pyramid of Egypt was capped with a giant crystal to assist in grounding and utilization of cosmic force. As these original civilizations rose and fell, much of the knowledge and power of the crystal was all but lost.

It has been recorded in Exodus in the Bible, that a breastplate endowed with twelve precious jewels, arranged in four rows and worn over the heart would grace Aaron with the power of God.

Kings in ancient India were advised to collect and surround themselves with the very best gemstones to protect them from harm. Sanskrit dating back to 400 B.C. has been found that makes elaborate observations about the origins and powers of stones.

Early Greek and Roman writings indicate that crystals and stones were worn as talismans and amulets for not only health and protection, but to attract virtues.

Native American legend believes there are 13 ancient crystal skulls that are the size of human skulls and are said to have spoken or sang. These skulls contain important information about the origin, purpose and destiny of mankind. It is said that this information is vital to the survival of this planet and the human race. This legend has been handed down through generations of many different Native American tribes over thousands of years including the Mayan, Aztec, Pueblo, Navajo, Cherokee, and Seneca. The Cherokee version of this legend says that there are 12 planets in the cosmos that are inhabited by human beings and that there is one crystal skull for each planet. The thirteenth skull has information that is vital to all the others. The one belief that is common to all tribes is that the human race must be morally and spiritually ready before the information contained within the crystal skulls is made available.

There are tribes of Mexican Indians that believe if you live a good life on this earth, your soul will go into a crystal when you die.

Many North American tribes have been using crystals as healing and spiritual tools for thousands of years. Some of these tribes, such as the Apache and Cherokee, also have well developed training programs for those individuals chosen to become faith healers and tribal priests. Larger crystals were used as seer stones by elders and chiefs to foretell future events and their outcomes.

In Arkansas crystal arrowheads have been discovered that date back to 8,000 B.C. The Plum Bayou people that lived along the Arkansas River around 700 to 1000 A.D. had fashioned projectile points, scrapers and knives out of clear quartz. These were used for ceremonial purposes. The Spanish explorer Hernando DeSoto visited Hot Springs area of Arkansas in 1541. He reported that the people of the area were making special quartz arrowheads. We have even seen an ancient war club head that was ground out of a large piece of quartz crystal.

Modern mankind has utilized quartz crystals in many ways. Even the outcome of WWII changed when the crystal radio set was invented. This new radio allowed American and Allied forces to have verbal communication with their warplanes, giving them a great advantage. Crystals are used in clocks, watches, computers, lasers and too many other applications to name. Nobody knows for sure just ho many more uses can be found for quartz crystal, but one thing is for sure, we are only just beginning to find out.

Crystal lore and legends have been around since the beginning of mankind and will continue on forever. The legends of the 13 crystal skulls and their purpose for being here indicate that the time is at hand for them to surface and be used. Many tribes believe that our planet is ready to receive the knowledge contained in these crystal skulls. Who knows, only the future will tell.

Anyone read a week in December by Sebastian Faulkes? He, really, really, really, really answers this question.

Originally posted by Pinkie Pie
Murder is not a display of power. Not in my world at least 😛

People do not fall to their knees at the sound of Mitzatusuesfsa's name. Many millions would fall to their knees at the sound of God 🙂 That is power to me.

Murdering millions on the name of an unproven entity is indeed a display of power of what belief can do.

If they happened to, that still wouldn't make The Great Purple Mitzatusuesfsa real on that merit alone. Which is the point.

Originally posted by Pinkie Pie
Murder is not a display of power. Not in my world at least 😛

People do not fall to their knees at the sound of Mitzatusuesfsa's name. Many millions would fall to their knees at the sound of God 🙂 That is power to me.

..lots of people believing something doesn't mean its any more true.

Ergo Superstition: bad for the knees. 😛

EDIT: Like Robtard said

I do not believe murder is power. You can edit the number of deaths all you want. I do not believe being the cause of death for another is power 🙂 That is my belief. It is no less true just because I have killed none for it.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
..lots of people believing something doesn't mean its any more true.

Ergo Superstition: bad for the knees. 😛

EDIT: Like Robtard said

Same as many disbelieving it not making it false 🙂

...not believing an outrageous proposition when no evidence is offered to support said claim is merely rationality acting out. 🙂

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
...not believing an outrageous proposition when no evidence is offered to support said claim is merely rationality acting out. 🙂
You believe the world you live in is real. This is something you have taken for granted. The things you experience as proof could just as well not be. I point you to Hilary Putnam and the field of epistemology for more information on that 🙂 The theory that turn science upside-down and can't be proven against. And God is no part of it 😛

What I am saying is that what is outrageous to you is logic to another. That does not mean the other person is less intellectual than you or even less rational. This someone just happen to have a more open mind and is more receptive to the unlikely but not impossible 😄 Because religion is not impossible. We just can not prove it.

Hahaheeheehaahaa, then why did you attempt to de-power the power of The Great Purple Mitzatusuesfsa? I believe and you will too, after you die of course and meet him.

I believe that everything we experience is the result of biological sensory input being processed....and can be subjective, but there are objective realities to consider.

Its having an open mind and looking into things that lead me to the conclusions Im currently at.

Will definitely take a look at Putnam....thanks for the recommend.
Although I say that evidence is testable and stands up to scrutiny of truly open minded study....I love star trek for example, Im open minded, I watched and loved it, but is it true? No.

Although of course the bulk is set in the future,
It fails the test of scrutiny everytime I look into the Eugenics wars and other events that were meant to have happened by now.
And thats just one of hundreds of really obvious ways in which I know the star trek universe to be fictional.

Religions fall apart under scrutiny. So they cannot be true.
And they certainly cant ALL be true, and they contradict each other.

So its reasonable to assume that they are in fact all false.

Who knows, maybe a Godthing will reveal itself to me when I snuff it, and I'll be like "oops" but I wont feel stupid, as the belief was genuinely too flakey for me to subscribe to.

But im fairly certain that I'll just go back to being like I was before I was alive, consciousness wise anyway. And I dont remember not existing as being so bad.

Religion is just a bunch of rules... Rules is what makes up The Laws

pass a red light you might get a ticket..

But the lack of evidence suggests that theres no traffic cop.

Now Im not saying 'go and speed', but at least you dont have to look in the rear mirror all the time when you should be looking forward.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
But the lack of evidence suggests that theres no traffic cop.

Now Im not saying 'go and speed', but at least you dont have to look in the rear mirror all the time when you should be looking forward.

no one would need to look in the rear view mirror if everyone follows the laws

we need order in our life without it we as a race would have died out already

Originally posted by alltoomany
no one would need to look in the rear view mirror if everyone follows the laws
What about changing lanes and backing up?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What about changing lanes and backing up?

why would you need to change lanes? Law says to give urself enough time to get where ur going...why would u need to back up? U clearly werent paying attention...

Originally posted by alltoomany
why would you need to change lanes? Law says to give urself enough time to get where ur going...why would u need to back up? U clearly werent paying attention...
I know, I was kidding with you. Smile?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I know, I was kidding with you. Smile?
🙂