show me some evidence, evidence, and evidence

Started by 0mega Spawn52 pages

show me some evidence, evidence, and evidence

not to offend the sore religious people

but why is the concept of evidence so hard to understand?
any given site ANY someone says "evidence please" and people quote scriptures on & on. sigh... its a frustrating loop -_-

its the equivalent of someone telling someone there is no hogwarts full of wizards & in response they start reading the dam spells 😆

Well naturally... theres a bloody good reason that no proof comes forward...
🙂

...its because the claims are 99.8% likely to be untrue.

Thats why in lieu of proof, most of the religiously 'offended' proceed instead to attack either/and/or atheism - like its got an agenda (As opposed realising that its simply a rejection of the 'offended' person's (unbacked up, convoluted unprovable) 'belief'.

Faith. Look it up.

Already did. Its not automatically a virtue...

I've got reasonable, earned faith that gravity works, as it can be tested at any given moment and is predictable..... Easily tested by jumping from a height.

If I hold my laptop up, at shoulder height whilst standing, and let go,
no amount of your or anyone's faith is gonna stop that crashing to a destructy demise.

I have faith in that.

Feel free give your computer a similar test, if you dispute this.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Faith. Look it up.
thats evidence? wow all the magical workings of god summed up in 1 word 😆 nice one

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
thats evidence? wow all the magical workings of god summed up in 1 word 😆 nice one

😛

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Feel free give your computer a similar test, if you dispute this.

Well hes not replied....is his computer now screwed? lol

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well hes not replied....is his computer now screwed? lol
😆 wouldn't be surprised

hey you ever watch EdwardCurrent youtube vids he makes hilarious atheist satires heres one
swlsqkAyxqY&feature=related how a person watches this and not be embarrassed to be christian is beyond me

Seems very Sam Harrisy to me.....nothing wrong with that, just similar prowess at combining the truth/humour thing.... 🙂

God is someone you have to believe reather or not there is any evidence you just know.and I think that is stronger then any evidence.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
God is someone you have to believe reather or not there is any evidence you just know.and I think that is stronger then any evidence.
you just know
so you know without a doubt there is a god? but cant present any evidence. thats odd 🙄

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Seems very Sam Harrisy to me.....nothing wrong with that, just similar prowess at combining the truth/humour thing.... 🙂
true comedians do call out the truth

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
God is someone you have to believe reather or not there is any evidence you just know.and I think that is stronger then any evidence.

I disagree.

NO ONE is someone you HAVE to believe with NO evidence, especially when the outline/synopsis of what they are saying goes against all knowledge of direct, and widely testable experience.

Evidence is evidence. Nothing else is.

Its why murder trials are decided on evidence rather than a guy on the benches saying: "Well of course I cannot or shouldn't ever have to prove it, but Darkside Jedi bumped off John F Kennedy...."

Of course your perfectly understandable reply would be "Rubbish! I never did that! Prove it!!!!!" and if they couldn't, the case would get laughed out of court, as the case was and would be ridiculous.

What about faith?People offen believe in something that they don't see and they need no evidence on it.Its faith and knowing that gets you to believe.

Re: show me some evidence, evidence, and evidence

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
not to offend the sore religious people

but why is the concept of evidence so hard to understand?
any given site ANY someone says "evidence please" and people quote scriptures on & on. sigh... its a frustrating loop -_-

its the equivalent of someone telling someone there is no hogwarts full of wizards & in response they start reading the dam spells 😆

I know it is not proof of any kind to you or most, but faith is my proof. There are two fundamental princips to my faith, that help my faith remain steady 😄

- You can not fear something you do not believe in
- The universe came to be

Now, few if not none at all will agree with me. That's the sweet part of faith 😛 I don't need people to agree. I have it and that's good enough for me.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
What about faith?People offen believe in something that they don't see and they need no evidence on it.Its faith and knowing that gets you to believe.
LOL that word again. faith
faith believing in something without any evidence whatsoever

i have faith that a woman flys around the globe to collect missing teeth from under kids pillow 🙂

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
What about faith?People offen believe in something that they don't see and they need no evidence on it.Its faith and knowing that gets you to believe.

But if proof of the contrary comes along and discredits it, its dumb to go on believing.

We all probably believed in Santa once.
When I heard a more convincing explanation of where the christmas presents were coming from, I left the old "Santa did it" theory behind.

As for 'knowing inside'... Regardless of what the outside (Religion)says
Its the similarly authorative 'knowing' otherwise* that lead me to reject religion.
When I looked at the many, many, many absurd notions, fallacies, contradictions in them, and found WAY better explanations for how the universe works since in science, I came to my own conclusion that I was right in my suspicions.

And what a coincidence, Religious institutions and organisations opposed scientific discovery right from the get go.

Look up Ptolemy, Galileo, church on Google. 🙂

Look up "Creationist history/science taught in schools"

* I think you mean SUSPECT not "know".

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
LOL that word again. faith
faith believing in something without any evidence whatsoever

i have faith that a woman flys around the globe to collect missing teeth from under kids pillow 🙂

Answer me then what the difference between gravity and spiritual faith is.

Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Answer me then what the difference between gravity and spiritual faith is.
i can see gravity actually affecting the world 😬 😆

drop a pen... gravity
jump... gravity

Gravity is a theory that can be tested, with predictable results.

Spiritual faith is:

A) Often nothing to do with religion
B) In constant flux and is a human subjective perceptory thing located to the "believer"

Gravity is:

A) Testable
B) Seeable, thanks to spectrography and noting gravitys bending of light via the wavelengths of light from background stars being altered as light travels through the field of a body or black hole between the light emitting star in the background.
C) It can even affect time.

I think the question, to put it back to you, is:
"What is it that you think that the two have in common at all?"