Originally posted by carver9
This is the only thing I am going to say on the subject... how can you make a terrible Superman story. From what I have seen, they have basically been high lighting his stage of being the most well known and respected dc character and they have been focusing more on the character and his history towards dc rather than just throwing a villian at him off hand.Now they have revived Doomsday which should bring everything back up to pace. I'm not seeing anything wrong with his stories. They have high lighted his background with the rise of kryptonians which brought all of the heros closer to each other in an emotional stand point and from what I have seen, it aided in his relationship with Supergirl and actually aided in her being a star character.
The Superman stories are on point and they are selling. Its focused on his powerset, attitude, and leadership and again, he deserves this... he is by far the greatest hero that exist in comics today and "forever" imo and moore just PMed me and told me to tell you all to get off of his balls.
Three words: Are You Kidding?
They brought back the Kryptonians, yes... They just executed it badly.
They brought the heroes closer together? Superman has never been more alienated from Earth's heroes than he is at this point in time.
Supergirl and Superman's relationship was made worse by New Krypton. They were actually doing fine beforhand, and then her mother was brought in to it. Supergirl's standing as a character might have risen due to NK, but it had nothing to do with the quality of the main books books. It was simple exposure (and Sterling Gates iirc).
I don't know HOW you can think that the books properly focused on him.
His powerset? The main two writers he's had in the last three years both nerfed him (McDuffie even admitted to making him weaker just so he could write team books). His powerset was nothing but harmed during New Krypton and JLA, so I really don't know where you're coming from.
His attitude/s? He's been written out of character so badly during the last two to three years that at times, even the dialogue didn't sound like him. That was how bad Robinson and McDuffie were.
Leadership? Leading who? He started off with support, sure, but he was never having the same impact Zod was. He became a pariah to his people (and then they all died), and he's not even in the Justice League anymore.
The only brief, shining light Superman has had during the last two/three years was the very start of NK (when Rucka and Johns were on it, before quickly leaving), the Origin book, and some of the current JMS stuff, and even that is sketchy at best.
So that leads me to two conclusions Carver; maybe you can tell me which one is right:
Your ideal Superman is one that is weaker, written out of character and just plain poorer compared to the standard one that I (and many others) have been reading for at least a decade now.
It's either that, or you're backhandedly trying to convince people that Superman in NK is a decent representation of Superman, so that your arguments that lowball and discredit the character will actually gain some support.
If there's an option C, please, enlighten me.