Originally posted by h1a8
Either D.C.s Hercules is a lot stronger than Marvel's Herc or it was simply a low showing for Superman where it isn't for WWH (there are no contradicting better ones in the arc).The fact remains that Superman will hit a lot harder than Herc and can threaten to ko WWH in a few blows.
Also Superman wasn't rocked (as in halfway unconscious). His nose just bleed and he got knocked into a window (Superman is not unmovable).
mariofacepalm This guy is full of shit
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The problem with WWH....is he didn't do anything Superman couldn't have done easily. His best feats are a joke compared to Superman.
We don't know what WWH could have done since he held back the entire arc. By the way, I don't think Supes could have survived that assault that WWH went through against Zom Strange and I think he would have been koed by the attack Skrullbolt hit Hulk with.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Far stronger than which Hercules? And what feats are using to support this? Supergirl isn't as strong as Superman, either. They debunked that ages ago by revealing that Kara just didn't hold back whereas Kal does.He was stunned, man. I don't see how you could get the impression he wasn't. Hercules busted his nose open and drew blood and then punched him away. That's Hercules being strong enough to cause Superman physical pain. Trying to downplay it as anything else but that is misleading. If Hercules wasn't strong enough to damage him, even a pressure point hit wouldn't have effected him, but, alas, he was and is.
Mjolnir's hit Savage Hulk who is less powerful than WWH. So, yeah, considering it was stated and shown numerous times that WWH > any other Hulk before him, it's relevant. Bloodlusted Superman didn't hit with planet destroying punches when he fought Doomsday or Wonder Woman, either. Seriously, man, there are better and more concrete arguments for Superman than this rampant ignorance concerning the characters you're mentioning.
and to you my friend i say...... good luck. 😂
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Marvel Hercules =/= DC Hercules, for one thing. In terms of feats, Marvel's Herc clearly outshines his DC counterpart. If their positions had been reversed, Marvel's Hercules would have done the exact same damage to Superman at the very least. I don't see how anyone can try to somehow twist that into anything else.WWH is stronger than Savage Hulk, as it was confirmed several times through out the arc by Reed, Stark, and SHIELD. He was the "angriest" he had ever been and therefore the "strongest" he had ever been. Considering Savage Hulk has strength feats which put him in the higher caliber of characters with super strength, WWH, a Hulk stated and shown to be stronger than his typical self would, at the least, be considered a peer to Superman in strength. You can firmly believe Superman to be stronger still, but to act as if it's not even that close between them when it comes to strength...
The logic is this.
Either D.C. Herc>>>>Marvel Herc or it was a low showing by Superman. This is because
Superman has been hit many times by people stronger than Hercules and never bleed.
We can't go off Hulk's other feats but only what is shown in WWH comics. This is because of two reasons
1. Hulk outside WWH has greater feats than WWH himself and thus WWH wasn't the strongest Hulk ever. There is no support for any claims anyone can make (characters in comics or writer) that can justify WWH being stronger than he ever was when all he shown was being weaker.
2. Most here argue that Hulk's strength is more random and not so much based off anger. That means he can suddenly be super strong sometimes, and other times (when he is more angrier) more weaker and get koed by beings like Namor and such. I dismiss this stuff as PIS as clearly Hulk was created to has his strength directly proportional to his anger, and not some random thing.
3. Assuming we can use Hulk's old feats, outside WWH, then still we don't know HOW MUCH STRONGER WWH was. Simply because he's not shown to be more stronger.
It appears that Superman is close to Hulk in strength because he nearly always holds back. When Superman unleashes himself then he perform feats only Hulk could imagine. That is why Superman is far stronger than Hulk at most times (but not in potential).
Any discussions about Hulk's strength should be faulty anyway since his strength is VARIABLE.
So asking who is stronger is not a YES or NO, or it will be faulty, but rather "It depends on how angry he is" type of question.
nothing will help the people here, thing is all the people on that list are preety much equel to sups in tearms of power... but come on no one here has the skills to fight superman i mean the guy is fighting for years and years non of us has any skills at all to stand up to superman even with an equel power
I totally forgot about this thread.
I still say sans BFR WWH/BA then Glads
With BFR BA then Glads
KH isn't even in my list 😛
Also for shame trying to say Marvel Herc is so vastly inferior strength wise to Supes. The guy has feats as demonstrated multiple time and with multiple opponents. Give Herc some free shots on Supes he would probably do the same thing to Supes he did to Hulk.
I would say Supes >Herc>Thor in strength or Supees >Herc=Thor, but the difference is still so small it doesn't matter.
As for hulk in this thread. I do think Hulk gets wanked a lot in some fights but in a pure physical tank match minus super speed and super reaction time... Well that is where Hulk shines and there are not too many people who are gonna beat him at that game at this power level.
He is built for it with his durability, dynamic strength, and healing factor.
Originally posted by h1a8
Either D.C.s Hercules is a lot stronger than Marvel's Herc or it was simply a low showing for Superman where it isn't for WWH (there are no contradicting better ones in the arc).The fact remains that Superman will hit a lot harder than Herc and can threaten to ko WWH in a few blows.
Also Superman wasn't rocked (as in halfway unconscious). His nose just bleed and he got knocked into a window (Superman is not unmovable).
WTF
Do you think before you speak, I mean damn! You make the most stupidities comments, damn you are worst than the politicians in the Senate.