Originally posted by quanchi112Presence still exists before and beyond creation. Creation is still only a part of him. Not all of him... Not the whole... A mere piece.... A fraction... A component. Get the point.
Thanos has the power of the supreme being and can absorb all of creation if he so chooses.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That doesn't mean he doesn't exist all throughout creation now. My theory is based on a dc comic yours has no merit.
i think i read a scan somewhere where synnar said that the Demiurge was the one who created everything..and the Presence is above Demiurge which mean the Presence is above all of creation..
Originally posted by SlaaneshThat's abc logic I have a scan describing the presence and where he exists. You can't use a story later on to describe the presence and loosely try to make a connection between the two.
i think i read a scan somewhere where synnar said that the Demiurge was the one who created everything..and the Presence is above Demiurge which mean the Presence is above all of creation..
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's abc logic I have a scan describing the presence and where he exists. You can't use a story later on to describe the presence and loosely try to make a connection between the two.
Originally posted by King KandyThat doesn't change the fact the presence resides in all of creation. Different writers describe the universe forming in different ways I don't see these all as retcons just a writer's tool for that particular story.
you certainly can... its called a retcon. Kind of like how when Thanos describes a Thanosi doing something, it means he didn't do it himself.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That doesn't change the fact the presence resides in all of creation. Different writers describe the universe forming in different ways I don't see these all as retcons just a writer's tool for that particular story.
Originally posted by King KandyThen just agree with. There are always exceptions I think it's hard sometimes for us comic fans who try to make everything fit together when comics by their very nature are inconsistent.
I would actually agree with this, but I don't think you consistently use this perspective, you just say that when its convenient to your point.
The Thanos retcons are specific.
Originally posted by quanchi112Just because the presence resides in all creation does not make creation all of the presence. Presence existed before creation and its power is still absolute beyond the context of the DC multiverse.
That doesn't change the fact the presence resides in all of creation. Different writers describe the universe forming in different ways I don't see these all as retcons just a writer's tool for that particular story.
Originally posted by Uriel005It was explained point blank in paradise lost. Asmodel would have to destroy creation itself which is the same reason Lucy's assault failed. Thanos absorbs creation easily. Thanos stomps.
Just because the presence resides in all creation does not make creation all of the presence. Presence existed before creation and its power is still absolute beyond the context of the DC multiverse.
Originally posted by Uriel005Not according to paradise lost. He is everything in all of dc's creation and cronus actually took the presence's power in heaven directly. Thanos can easily do so. My argument is backed by the comics yours isn't.
... absorbing creation still doesn't beat presence... he is beyond creation.
Originally posted by quanchi112except that no matter how you look at it Presence still came before creation.
Not according to paradise lost. He is everything in all of dc's creation and cronus actually took the presence's power in heaven directly. Thanos can easily do so. My argument is backed by the comics yours isn't.
Yo.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos easily absorbs all of the dcu. That's what makes up the presence and Thanos has already shown this ability.
so wat if somebody w/HOTU absorbs all of creation? that line of thinking means that The Presence is ONLY wat was made, and not MUCH MORE THAN THAT........which is exactly the case.
to put it bluntly: if U destroy a mans house.......does that mean the man is destroyed?
Tazer
Originally posted by Uriel005So what ? He resides in all of creation now so who cares what came before. Thanos wins.
except that no matter how you look at it Presence still came before creation.
Originally posted by TazerThis was cited on panel as how to defeat or attack the presence which Thanos can do.
Yo.so wat if somebody w/HOTU absorbs all of creation? that line of thinking means that The Presence is ONLY wat was made, and not MUCH MORE THAN THAT........which is exactly the case.
to put it bluntly: if U destroy a mans house.......does that mean the man is destroyed?
Tazer