Gun Kata Blade versus Selene the bullet curver

Started by Nephthys11 pages

edit: Darn, ninja'd!

Originally posted by Robtard
Post the vid where the Father explains the workings on Gunkata and you'll see it directly poops on what you're saying.

A curving bullet negates Blade's ability to predict bullet trajectory and he would risk moving into the bullet. Not saying it will happen for sure, but it's now a throw of the dice instead of the precise calculations of Gunkata.

Edit: Here, I found it:

YouTube video

Key words: "while keeping the defendant clear of the statistically traditional trajectories of return fire."

A curving bullet would not follow a 'statistical traditional trajectory' and it couldn't be mathematically calculated by a Gunkata user. ie The fool could lilkly as well move into the path instead of outside of it.

Pay attention:

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK, one more time. Watch the vid below. FF to 3:12.

YouTube video

The clerics/cops see Preston standing at the end of the hallway. He is stationary. They raise their weapons and fire on him. Preston does his flippy spin move and avoids being hit.

His opponents were at point A. Preston was at point B. His opponents fired from point A, the bullets traveled to their desired location, point B, but Preston was no longer there. How? Why? Because Preston saw where they were, heard when they fired, and was able to predict where and when the bullets would arrive.

Thee you have it. Preston avoids being hit by staying out of the flight path of the bullet, AND avoiding being where his opponent intends for the bullet to strike home. He does BOTH.

BTW: Those machine gun rounds travel faster than 9mm bullets. Blade, with his vampire attributes AND Gun Kata on par with Preston, yeah, Selene's gonna fail with bullet curving. Her only chance is the adrenaline boost, and at this point I think even that won't be enough.

Originally posted by Robtard
Post the vid where the Father explains the workings on Gunkata and you'll see it directly poops on what you're saying.

A curving bullet negates Blade's ability to predict bullet trajectory and he would risk moving into the bullet. Not saying it will happen for sure, but it's now a throw of the dice instead of the precise calculations of Gunkata.

Edit: Here, I found it:

YouTube video

Key words: "while keeping the defendant clear of the statistically traditional trajectories of return fire."

A curving bullet would not follow a 'statistical traditional trajectory' and it couldn't be mathematically calculated by a Gunkata user. ie The fool could lilkly as well move into the path instead of outside of it.

Yeah, he'd move out of the way of the "a" path bullet and in doing so, accidentally move out of the curved "b" path bullets...which I've covered already....all based on trajectory probabilities. Hooray for Gun Kata kicking so much ass, right?

Originally posted by Nephthys
edit: Darn, ninja'd!

I know, right? I Pwned that point aaaaaaaaages ago.

estahuh

😆

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Pay attention:

Hypocrisy FTW, eh? You obviously aren't grasping what was said in the vid specifically about Gunkata: "while keeping the defendant clear of the statistically traditional trajectories of return fire."

The oddest thing here, you vehemently argued that Hit-Girl and her couple little flips would counter Gunkata, but a person who can bend bullets at impossible angles now can't.

One thing you're right about, if this were a close starting fight, say a gun standoff, Blade would have the advantage instead of Selene.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah, he'd move out of the way of the "a" path bullet and in doing so, accidentally move out of the curved "b" path bullets...which I've covered already....all based on trajectory probabilities. Hooray for Gun Kata kicking so much ass, right?

Or accidentally move into it, considering he can't do the math for something that doesn't follow known statistics. It's a flip of the coin.

Originally posted by Robtard
Hypocrisy FTW, eh? You obviously aren't grasping what was said in the vid specifically about Gunkata: "while keeping the defendant clear of the statistically traditional trajectories of return fire."

The oddest thing here, you vehemently argued that Hit-Girl and her couple little flips would counter Gunkata, but a person who can bend bullets at impossible angles now can't.

One thing you're right about, if this were a close starting fight, say a gun standoff, Blade would have the advantage instead of Selene.

Lulz you're not paying attention. You skipped the part where I pwned this thread.

Not surprising, considering it doesn't exist.

No? K, let's try this differently.

In the hallway shootout scene, The guards are standing at point A. Preston enters the hallway and stands at point B.

Can we agree on that much?

NO. Clearly the guards are standing at point 1 and Preston is standing at point 2.

crackers

Originally posted by Nephthys
NO. Clearly the guards are standing at point 1 and Preston is standing at point 2.

crackers

K, have it your way.

The guards then open up with automatic fire from position 1, intending for their bullets to strike Preston, who is standing at position 2.

With me so far?

No.

Just because.

K. Preston then avoided being hit by using Gun Kata, predicting where the bullets were intended to hit him.

He predicted where the bullets were intended to strike him (point B.) Point B is the same even if the bullets had been curved.

So.......Yeah, I know you see it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Lulz you're not paying attention. You skipped the part where I pwned this thread.

"while keeping the defendant clear of the statistically traditional trajectories of return fire."

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
K. Preston then avoided being hit by using Gun Kata, predicting where the bullets were intended to hit him.

He predicted where the bullets were intended to strike him (point B.) Point B is the same even if the bullets had been curved.

"while keeping the defendant clear of the statistically traditional trajectories of return fire."

Your "Point B" doesn't matter if he happens to step into the path of a bullet he can't factor in because it's not following "statistically traditional trajectories", which is a distinct possibility here. Or to dumb it down further, he gets hit before the bullet arrives at "Point B."

Dude, stop. It's over.

No, not until you understand how Gunkata works and comprehend the verbal explanation given in the film/clip I posted. I know you have it in you.

"while keeping the defendant clear of the statistically traditional trajectories of return fire." <--- really think about the specific wording of this quote.

Originally posted by Robtard
No, not until you understand how Gunkata works and comprehend the verbal explanation given in the film/clip I posted. I know you have it in you.

"while keeping the defendant clear of the statistically traditional trajectories of return fire." <--- really think about the specific wording of this quote.

I understand that. I acknowledge that. What you need to acknowledge is that in addition staying clear of the traditional trajectories of return fire, Preston also avoided being hit by not being where the bullet was intended to strike him.

He did both. It's in the vid, therefore it is not open for debate. What is seen>>>>>What is said.

It's over.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I understand that. I acknowledge that. What you need to acknowledge is that in addition staying clear of the traditional trajectories of return fire, Preston also avoided being hit by not being where the bullet was intended to strike him.

He did both. It's in the vid, therefore it is not open for debate. What is seen>>>>>What is said.

It's over.

No, you clearly don't. You were basically arguing the opposite you are now in the Preston Vs Hit-Girl thread.

Both your scenarios are one and the same; Preston did so by factoring in the "statistically traditional trajectories" of the guns/bullets he was facing, which is the point here. Granted, what he did is possible only in fiction, it still has rules, as stated in the film.

Originally posted by Robtard
No, you clearly don't. You were basically arguing the opposite you are now in the Preston Vs Hit-Girl thread.

Both your scenarios are one and the same; Preston did so by factoring in the "statistically traditional trajectories" of the guns/bullets he was facing, which is the point here. Granted, what he did is possible only in fiction, it still has rules, as stated in the film.

You haven't even read my entire argument here, have you? Totally different than my argument in the HG thread. Big ass fail, dude.

What you seem to be ignoring or not understanding RJ is that a standard bullet traveling from point A(Muzzle) to point B(Target) is not necessarily the same as a curved bullet. If someone points and pulls the trigger at someones forehead, the bullet will hit their forehead. If someone bends the bullet, it could curve up, come down and hit them in the exact same spot. Or it could hit them in the temple, or be curved down and hit them in the leg. Their is absolutely nothing traditional about that, since the path and destination of the bullet is only known by the shooter.

Preston would be sh*t out of luck if that entire warehouse was full of fraternity.

I understand that. Point is that Preston uses Gun Kata to:

A: Avoid the traditional trajectory of incoming bullets.

B: Also uses Gun Kata to avoid being at the bullets desired destination.

It's right there in the vid.