Gun Kata Blade versus Selene the bullet curver

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No concession. You keep tap dancing around the fact that Preston did all that gun kata was SAID to do and showed even more by doing what I said.

There's really no way around it.

What he does is still only based on his knowledge of GK though....Which doesn't include knowledge of curved bullets so he can't counter them...He can use what knowledge and skills he does have and he will no doubt avoid some of the shots because of it but that's no longer entirely through his mastery of GK and would rely more considerably on luck rather than statistics.

You and DDM can argue til you're blue in the face that the difference in trajectories is minimal but the film proves you wrong for the 3 scenes I've already stated...Mr X's shot on the roof that turns a full 90 degrees at the last split second to hit his target...Wesley's train roof assassination and Fox's full 360 curve in a relatively small room shows that the bullet can come from any angle including behind the opponent.

You can also ignore and mock our repetition of traditional trajectories but that's exactly what GK is based on and it's stated explicitly on screen. There's no getting around it...He can't avoid for certain what he can't predict....Simple as that.

You're just wrong...I even get the impression that you know you're wrong but you've dug yourself in to that much of a hole that you can't stop now.

I do say so.

Originally posted by jaden101
You and DDM can argue til you're blue in the face that the difference in trajectories is minimal but the film proves you wrong for the 3 scenes I've already stated...Mr X's shot on the roof that turns a full 90 degrees at the last split second to hit his target...

That was Mr. X, not Wesley.

Additionally, that doesn't change the fact that a Gun Kata user would be dodging the "straight line" trajectory and would have avoided that curved trajectory, regardless of where it started to curve. There's a very small change they would would dodge in such a way that it would dodge the straight line trajectory but dodge into the curved trajectory and the margin for that is so very close that it's almost impossible to pull off something like that while dodging the straight line trajectory. 🙂

Originally posted by jaden101
Fox's full 360 curve in a relatively small room shows that the bullet can come from any angle including behind the opponent.

Addressed that already: she'll kill herself making a 360 degree shot. 🙂

Additionally, that was Fox, not Wesley. 🙂

Originally posted by jaden101
You can also ignore and mock our repetition of traditional trajectories but that's exactly what GK is based on and it's stated explicitly on screen. There's no getting around it...He can't avoid for certain what he can't predict....Simple as that.

You're just wrong...I even get the impression that you know you're wrong but you've dug yourself in to that much of a hole that you can't stop now.

And can continue to ignore that you're points have been thoroughly beaten until your blue in the face: doesn't mean that repeating yourself changes that you're still wrong.

DDM, stop being so ****ing retarded and give up. Your argument makes no damn sense and your just making yourself look like a damn fool.

Sup Pot?

That was Mr. X, not Wesley.

And that'll be what I typed.

Additionally, that doesn't change the fact that a Gun Kata user would be dodging the "straight line" trajectory and would have avoided that curved trajectory, regardless of where it started to curve. There's a very small change they would would dodge in such a way that it would dodge the straight line trajectory but dodge into the

If you don't understand that moving left or right in relation to the shooter when the bullet can come from the left or right will result in you getting shot then you're either infinitely more stupid than I thought or you're just being stubborn.

Addressed that already: she'll kill herself making a 360 degree shot.

It's obviously indicative that if a shot CAN be curved in a full circle then it can be curved to any angle in between. Thus is makes your argument that there's only a slight curve (shown by your drawing from the other thread) to be wrong. Besides...The shooter can also move...And they WILL know the curve of the bullet. Fox was only killed because she wanted to be killed.

Additionally, that was Fox, not Wesley.

Which will be, yet again, what I typed. We're not discussing Wesley...We're discussing Selene being able to do what the bullet benders can do and the OP stated that "Fox and the others teach her everything they know" which means feats of other characters...Not just Wesley.

And can continue to ignore that you're points have been thoroughly beaten until your blue in the face: doesn't mean that repeating yourself changes that you're still wrong.

Your "arguments" are completely ignoring the fundamental principles that GK is based on...Which means they're about as legit as a £6 note...So best you actually bring facts to the table rather than what you'd like to be the case.

Should I have this closed?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Should I have this closed?

Ferrous Cranus = you in here

Originally posted by Robtard
Ferrous Cranus = you in here

Utterly true, dude. Even DDM who has the ability to make you see the light couldn't sway you in here.

You = http://img228.imageshack.us/i/ferrouscranus.jpg

Ferrous Cranus is utterly impervious to reason, persuasion and new ideas, and when engaged in battle he will not yield an inch in his position regardless of its hopelessness. Though his thrusts are decisively repulsed, his arguments crushed in every detail and his defenses demolished beyond repair he will remount the same attack again and again with only the slightest variation in tactics. Sometimes out of pure frustration Philosopher will try to explain to him the failed logistics of his situation, or Therapist will attempt to penetrate the psychological origins of his obduracy, but, ever unfathomable, Ferrous Cranus cannot be moved.

Sure!!!

Starting point and ending point, A and B. Dodge side to side. Simple. Keep ignoring that.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sure!!!

Starting point and ending point, A and B. Dodge side to side. Simple. Keep ignoring that.

It's not that simple and trying to make it be is nonsense.

How's Gunkata going to work when there's two curving bullets coming in at different angles and from different sides? Mind you, the trajectory and arrival time of the bullets can't be factored.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's not that simple and trying to make it be is nonsense.

How's Gunkata going to work when there's two curving bullets coming in at different angles and from different sides? Mind you, the trajectory and arrival time of the bullets can't be factored.

Now, I have a question. It could actually swing my opinion the other way.

Bullet curvers can shoot bullets out of mid air. Durh. Now, can they do so because:

A: They can literally see the bullet as it flies through the air,

B: They know where the bullet is in it's trajectory without seeing it,

or

C: Other

Originally posted by Nephthys
DDM, stop being so ****ing retarded and give up. Your argument makes no damn sense and your just making yourself look like a damn fool.

It makes plenty of sense to an "idiot" like RJ, so what would that make you?

Oooooooooooohhhhhhh! Sick burn!

I do admit that it's a bit complicated to understand...not my explanation, itself, but the entire discussion and concepts. I just couldn't pass up the opporunity to burn you better than any regular gradeschool name calling would accomplish. 🙂

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Now, I have a question. It could actually swing my opinion the other way.

Bullet curvers can shoot bullets out of mid air. Durh. Now, can they do so because:

A: They can literally see the bullet as it flies through the air,

B: They know where the bullet is in it's trajectory without seeing it,

or

C: Other

Both A and B. Intuition for B and they are also slowing down their perception of time. So it's both.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Both A and B. Intuition for B and they are also slowing down their perception of time. So it's both.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Never mind. Rapid fire BOOMBOOMBOOM counters that.

Indeed as we've talked about that before. 😄

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sure!!!

Starting point and ending point, A and B. Dodge side to side. Simple. Keep ignoring that.

dodging left or right probably wouldn't work because a curved bullet could be in fact coming from the left or right... understand now?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Actually it is that simple.

<--- you; it's that simple.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Now, I have a question. It could actually swing my opinion the other way.

Bullet curvers can shoot bullets out of mid air. Durh. Now, can they do so because:

A: They can literally see the bullet as it flies through the air,

B: They know where the bullet is in it's trajectory without seeing it,

or

C: Other

Can I have a D please Bob?

Should I have this closed?

Probably...You getting as bored as I am?