Originally posted by dadudemon
This is why I hate Kubo sometimes.He can't even do flash steps, ffs...yet, your logic is not wrong.
You're further ignoring the fact that the captains were out of shape during the Rukia retrieval arc, and after that they underwent tough training.
I'd put Bykuya over Kenpachi just because Byakuya knows Kenpachi's fighting style and has a wide arrange of powers to exploit his flaws and weaknesses.
Originally posted by Astner
Actually, when Tosen cut off Grimmjow's arm he had undergone Aizen's process of hollowfication. Completely justifying his rampant increase in power.
There's actually no justification for that, anywhere.
Additionally, Tosen did not appear to be any stronger in his human form when he fought a Lieutenant and captain in the fake Kakura town arc.
Originally posted by Astner
You're further ignoring the fact that the captains were out of shape during the Rukia retrieval arc, and after that they underwent tough training.
This is speculation on the fans part. It is not a canon fact. Meaning, we cannot accept that as being fact.
Originally posted by Astner
I'd put Bykuya over Kenpachi just because Byakuya knows Kenpachi's fighting style and has a wide arrange of powers to exploit his flaws and weaknesses.
That and Sea Shell head can become invulnerable, completely, but shelling it up, Gaara style.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't think anything suggests they became stronger in their human forms after hollowfication, does it?
Well, Ichigo's hollow mask kept saving him from fatal blows. So there might actually be a bleed of power from the Hollow side. We know that the reverse is true, the hollow can decrease/affect your power in normal form.
Of course, Tousen was a unique case. Not only did he undergo hollowfication and become a Vizard, he could actually access a Ressurecion form, which suggests that he somehow became more of a hollow than a Shinigami.
I dunno. I don't think he really increased in his base form. I just think he spent too much time dicking around, which is how Kenpachi ultimately won. Not like Kenny wasn't getting damaged, it's just that he is around the 3rd most durable character in the series. So I don't see much of a strength boost in his base form. Just taking things more seriously.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Tousen was trying to kill Kenpachi.Kenny was just able to avoid the brunt of the blows by feeling it brush up against his haori.
God, keep up dick.
Tousen dicked around. Only until later when Kenny had gotten a handle on it did he get serious, and even then he never aimed for the head. I guess Kubo never questioned why Tousen would explain his bankai to a guy that can't hear him.
Pay attention douceh.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I dunno. I don't think he really increased in his base form. I just think he spent too much time dicking around, which is how Kenpachi ultimately won. Not like Kenny wasn't getting damaged, it's just that he is around the 3rd most durable character in the series. So I don't see much of a strength boost in his base form. Just taking things more seriously.
He always took things seriously, except when using Bankai or Ressurecion, though at least the Ressurecion part can be explained without resorting to CIS/PIS.
And again, Hollow powers can bleed into base form.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I'm not following the whole bleeding out thing. I know Ichigo's Mask would appear at convinient times but I don't recall where he was particularly more powerful for it.
So the mask appearing at convenient times, and Hollow Ichigo weakening Bankai Ichigo, do not qualify as 'hollow is affecting human form'? 😐
EDIT: Meh, then there's also this I guess:
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/bleach/v13/c113/12.html