Has any evidence actually been provided that the turtles are as good as Cap/Bats or that Goliath is stronger? Aside from the one concrete feat (which isn't > Cap/Bats), I haven't seen anything for the latter mentioned, and the skill debate seems to simply be either side claiming the other doesn't know what they're talking about.
I've only been skimming the thread every now and then though, so I could have missed something.