Runner, Makkari, and Hermes from what I've seen. Then the Superman analogues like Hyperion, Gladiator, and Sentry. After that, I'd say it's beings like Surfer and Thor who have crazy travel speed, some high end reaction feats, but aren't speedsters in the same sense as those above.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
this is possibly the craziest marvel feat I have seen. Glads is clocked in at over 100 times the speed of light.
Flight speed.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganIt's even sicker when you consider that the average distance between Earth and Pluto is possibly anywhere from 30-50 a.u. 1 AU is roughly 93 million miles lol. Isn't there one feat where he caught up to the Surfer from behind while in hyper space? Now that is a sick feat.
this is possibly the craziest marvel feat I have seen. Glads is clocked in at over 100 times the speed of light.
But travel speed isn't relevant for the proposes of this thread. I'm asking for best all around reflexive/combat based speed.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Runner, Makkari, and Hermes from what I've seen. Then the Superman analogues like Hyperion, Gladiator, and Sentry. After that, I'd say it's beings like Surfer and Thor who have crazy travel speed, some high end reaction feats, but aren't speedsters in the same sense as those above.Flight speed.
Surfer and Thor arent in the same vein speedwise.....at all. Surfer has legitmate combat superspeed blitzes against single and multiple opponents as well as being able to perceive and process things at superspeed.
no love for starhawk...
instant FTL, reflexes and all that jazz... survives in suns, can go intangible, light constructs, goes toe to toe with Thor and Wonderman in h2h, destroys barriers even Mjolnir cant, has precog and universal awareness, shrugs of blasts from surfer and firelord, blows the crap out of starships and space based defense platforms, manipulates light... (created by Steve Gerber 😛)
😘, c'mon! what else do you want from a speedster
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What are Surfer's best speed feats in terms of reflexes and combat speed?I've seen Surfer zoom around really fast and blast people, and he has two or so feats where he tracks electrons or something and reacts in a nanosecond/microsecond. Is that about it?
He has legititmate speedblitzes in combat at superspeed and yes their is the electronic signal feat(which indicates superspeed reaction, perception and movement) as well as feats of high level mental processing speed.
what more do u want?
Originally posted by Naija boy
He has legititmate speedblitzes in combat at superspeed and yes their is the electron feat(which indicates superspeed reaction, perception and movement) as well as feats of high level mental processing speed.what more do u want?
Like what? If by definition of legitimate speed blitzes, you mean flying around and zapping things pretty fast, then my point stands. But if he has some showing where his punching someone in nanoseconds or whatever, then I retract my statement.
I think Surfer's most likely faster than Thor, but in terms of speedsters, they're in the same vein. Both characters have a few showings where they operate or react at extremely high speeds, but you'll regularly find them flying really fast and not punching/fighting really fast in the same manor or quantity like Superman and his analogues. That's not a knock against Surfer, he does have impressive showings like in the recent Bill fight where the two were engaged in active combat while moving at speeds many times faster than light, but it's not in the same vein as the recent Flash/Superman comic.
The portrayals in speed are just different. That's all I'm saying.
Originally posted by inimalist
no love for starhawk...instant FTL, reflexes and all that jazz... survives in suns, can go intangible, light constructs, goes toe to toe with Thor and Wonderman in h2h, destroys barriers even Mjolnir cant, has precog and universal awareness, shrugs of blasts from surfer and firelord, blows the crap out of starships and space based defense platforms, manipulates light... (created by Steve Gerber 😛)
😘, c'mon! what else do you want from a speedster
A red costume with a lightning bolt on it and the secret identity named Wally West
Originally posted by Philosophía
Rage is backing the hell away, from a fight he knows he can't win.I'm surprised, he mostly just seems to like taking the beatings.
Haha. Shouldn't you be licking Superman's scrotum right about now Philo?
If I had been more aggressive like I usually am, it would have turned into a Thor vs. debate as most of my discussions seem to end up as lately. It still might. ermm
Surfer and Thor have comparable flight speeds I'd wager. Surfer would most likely have the edge in terms of reflexes and maneuverability. Probably has more speed showings as well.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Like what? If by definition of legitimate speed blitzes, you mean flying around and zapping things pretty fast, then my point stands. But if he has some showing where his punching someone in nanoseconds or whatever, then I retract my statement.I think Surfer's most likely faster than Thor, but in terms of speedsters, they're in the same vein. Both characters have a few showings where they operate or react at extremely high speeds, but you'll regularly find them flying really fast and not punching/fighting really fast in the same manor or quantity like Superman and his analogues. That's not a knock against Surfer, he does have impressive showings like in the recent Bill fight where the two were engaged in active combat while moving at speeds many times faster than light, but it's not in the same vein as the recent Flash/Superman comic.
The portrayals in speed are just different. That's all I'm saying.
Ok first of all, the belief that speedblitzes or combat speed is limited too punching things really fast is false. Surfer goes around blasting things really fast seeing as he is primarily a blaster. He doesnt need to be punching in order for it to be considered a speedblitz.
The reason Surfer and thor are not in the same vein speedwise is because Thor doesnt have those sort of feats in which he is blitzing his opponents/moving,dodging,attacking at superspeed. Neither does he have examples of superspeed perception and processing speed that surfer does. Thors, combat manoevrability and movements are not similar to surfers when his speed is being emphasized which admittedly isnt always but given the multitude of his other powers is understandable.
Surfer might not punch blitz (he is a blaster as i mentioned before) but he does blast blitz and fight really fast when he wants to and thats just as valid. Moreover feats like perceiving and tracking an electronic signal speak very strongly for his overall speed level (movement, reaction, perception etc)
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympussurfer is clearly faster than thor
Haha. Shouldn't you be licking Superman's scrotum right about now Philo?If I had been more aggressive like I usually am, it would have turned into a Thor vs. debate as most of my discussions seem to end up as lately. It still might. ermm
Surfer and Thor have comparable flight speeds I'd wager. Surfer would most likely have the edge in terms of reflexes and maneuverability. Probably has more speed showings as well.
his perception of speed is much greater than thors....ie avoiding asteroids at ftl speeds
