Hiemdall's a black dude?

Started by basilisk5 pages

Originally posted by Bentley
Of course, it can be argued whether I'm right or not about Wakanda, what I'm trying to make clear is that race can "matter" in a mythos, and thus you cannot justify it just like that. Heimdall being "white skinned" won't change the conceptual nature of the Norse myth, but the same change in another myth or concept would make it an entirely different thing.
I agree, but what matters will differ from person to person so who are we to say this can be changed and this can't? To many people changing Heimdall was just a nod to silly political correctness gone mad - that we aren't even allowed to portray a mythical kingdom of Scandinavian gods anymore without it being racially diverse.

Hmmm. Maybe in the Black Panther movie we could have among the Panther God's pantheon a white actor playing one of the traditional African gods . I'm thinking Keanu Reeves as Anansi the trickster...

Imo, as long as race it's anecdotic in the story, you can bring in an actor of any ethnicity as long as he's good. You should choose the superior actor. As art is subjective you won't be able to make everyone feel ok about your end results, people will get offended one way or another, so you shouldn't try to please people that way.

I wouldn't mind a white Anasi, but I would mind a black T'challa.

Don't care.

He was good in the role, although it wasn't a particularly difficult character to portray.

Originally posted by Madvillain
Don't care.

He was good in the role, although it wasn't a particularly difficult character to portray.

lol yeah he ended up being my favorite character aside from the odin brood.

Yeah the guy did a great job and he was one of my favorites.

Originally posted by Bentley
Imo, as long as race it's anecdotic in the story, you can bring in an actor of any ethnicity as long as he's good. You should choose the superior actor. As art is subjective you won't be able to make everyone feel ok about your end results, people will get offended one way or another, so you shouldn't try to please people that way.

I wouldn't mind a white Anasi, but I would mind a black T'challa.

Pretty much. I wouldn't mind a white Shuri. In fact that would make things interesting if she turned out to be his adopted sister or something.

Black or not, hiemdall was my favortie character.

I think it was a bad mistake that really had an impact on the story and charac..Oh Wait!

i thought the role was cast perfectly. Some people just need to exercise some suspension of belief (which you should already be practising going to see a MARVEL comic book adaption) and enjoy it on it's own merits. If you find yourself really REALLY affected by this, then you may have to come to terms with the fact that your brain works in a different way than anyone sane, and you're a dick. Kinda.

He was kinda cool, but when he talked he really reminded me of the Elcor Hamlet from Mass Effect 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIfx32iAjzU

Oh and by the way Thor is supposed to have red hair not blonde. Noticed nobody gives a **** about that.

2 words..

clayton and bigsby..

After hearing people being able to argue T'Challa could be Jet Li, I've heard it all. What's next? Captain America becomes a samoan and Tony Stark an inuit? WTF

Originally posted by Deadline
Oh and by the way Thor is supposed to have red hair not blonde. Noticed nobody gives a **** about that.

Not in comics he isn't.

That kind of bothered me when I started reading on Thor -because there are too many blondes in Marvel-, but it's not important at all. Just lets all recall that Hulk is green because gray ink was too expensive back in the day.

The actor who played Hiemdall was good.

the argument for casting Black Panther,a major african character who has had race become a huge part of his history, as white/asian is hardly equatable to casting heimidall(however you spell it) as a black character.

Asgardians are gods, no reason race should matter to them.

The fact of the matter is the number of white characters to all other character is an overwhelming majority that doesn't really translate to the moviescreen which does its best to insert a bit of realism into marvel. Having everyone be white isn't realistic.

Now I know people aren't saying that but for certain characters theres no reason the best actor shouldn't be given the role regardless of ethnicity. Hell Stan Lee was fine with Donald Glover getting an audition for Spiderman because race hasn't really been a factor in any of his stories.

Glad to see that Idris Elba was able to prove that good characterization/acting>race of actor

When is this thread going to get canceled, considering this is about the 'integrity' of casting for HEIMDALL, and people continue to misspell his name? What about that? 😒

Originally posted by Bentley
Not in comics he isn't.

That kind of bothered me when I started reading on Thor -because there are too many blondes in Marvel-, but it's not important at all. Just lets all recall that Hulk is green because gray ink was too expensive back in the day.

Thats an insensitive and ignorant comment to make, you're not funny. I think you missed the point.