Honestly? Cable then cyclops then captain America.
Cable during the old xforce days when he whipped his cannonball etc team into action against all the other x teams...
Cyclops for the nod when the entire xmen though he was a wild Phoenix and he defeated them all on the fly...
Captain America because.. Well... Hes American and I love him dammit
Originally posted by ExistereLogan is an excellent combatant no doubt. He's also more skilled then Spidey. But for this thread, spiderman wins hands down imo. He does more with less, often while restraining himself.
Except for when he can't tank it...Logan has a ridiculous amount of combat training and such under his belt, and has stupidly good tactics feats under his belt- I remember reading a scan where he was supposed to be completing the Danger Room on one of it's higher settings while beating a bunch of super computers in chess?
Spider-Man's smarter, but Logan knows combat.
Originally posted by dmills
Logan is an excellent combatant no doubt. He's also more skilled then Spidey. But for this thread, spiderman wins hands down imo. He does more with less, often while restraining himself.
No spiderman doesent. Wolverine has numerous feats of utilizing his tactical prowess. What do you mean more with less? in many of the feats I am talking about wolverine does not use his healing factor. he also does not have the webbing like spidy does.
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Originally posted by dmillsI'm not talking about being a combatant. I'm talking about Logan's reputation and career as a tactician, and the mountains of feats that he has to credit that.
Logan is an excellent combatant no doubt. He's also more skilled then Spidey. But for this thread, spiderman wins hands down imo. He does more with less, often while restraining himself.
You asked about characters using tactics to take out foes above their paygrade. That's Wolverine.
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Also, good call Feron on suggesting Amadeus Cho.
Originally posted by Existere
I'm not talking about being a combatant. I'm talking about Logan's reputation and career as a tactician, and the mountains of feats that he has to credit that.You asked about characters using tactics to take out foes above their paygrade. That's Wolverine.
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Also, good call Feron on suggesting Amadeus Cho.
Yep Cho is the man when it comes to working things out mid fight in his head.
Originally posted by ExistereWolverine might be a better trained MA, but Spider-Man whips stuff out all of the time in the middle of a fight and wins, it is what he does. He's like an amaglam of Reed and Wolverine. Not quite as brainy or as formally trained, but he blends the two well.
Except for when he can't tank it...Logan has a ridiculous amount of combat training and such under his belt, and has stupidly good tactics feats under his belt- I remember reading a scan where he was supposed to be completing the Danger Room on one of it's higher settings while beating a bunch of super computers in chess?
Spider-Man's smarter, but Logan knows combat.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Wolverine might be a better trained MA, but Spider-Man whips stuff out all of the time in the middle of a fight and wins, it is what he does. He's like an amaglam of Reed and Wolverine. Not quite as brainy or as formally trained, but he blends the two well.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganMy point was that Spider-Man does too. Wolverine doesn't look for the most tactically viable solution to every single fight he's in. Only when he needs to, I'm sure we both can agree on that.
He is a better trained MA. Yes and? Wolverine uses his tactical prowess's to defeat foes all the time as both me an smurph have already posted.
