Marvel's best battlefield tactician...

Started by Existere5 pages

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Wolverine might be a better trained MA, but Spider-Man whips stuff out all of the time in the middle of a fight and wins, it is what he does. He's like an amaglam of Reed and Wolverine. Not quite as brainy or as formally trained, but he blends the two well.
Right, he is a better MA. He's also a better tactician, and he has the feats (as Dugan and I have posted) to back that up.

Spider-Man isn't an amalgamation of Reed and Wolverine so much as Reed and Deadpool.

Cykes and rogers are fine, but magneto and doom are really in another tier, tactically speaking.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
My point was that Spider-Man does too. Wolverine doesn't look for the most tactically viable solution to every single fight he's in. Only when he needs to, I'm sure we both can agree on that.
Tactically viable meaning?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
My point was that Spider-Man does too. Wolverine doesn't look for the most tactically viable solution to every single fight he's in. Only when he needs to, I'm sure we both can agree on that.

Nor does spiderman. So I am not seeing your point. Wolverine uses tactic quite often especially against groups. Just as much if not more so then spiderman. He formally trained and numerous years as leader in military and teams. He more well rounded tactically and more experienced. There is no way spiderman is more tactical then Wolverine.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Wolverine might be a better trained MA, but Spider-Man whips stuff out all of the time in the middle of a fight and wins, it is what he does. He's like an amaglam of Reed and Wolverine. Not quite as brainy or as formally trained, but he blends the two well.
Exactly. It's his schtick.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
what does restraining himself have to do with anything?

No spiderman doesent. Wolverine has numerous feats of utilizing his tactical prowess. What do you mean more with less? in many of the feats I am talking about wolverine does not use his healing factor. he also does not have the webbing like spidy does.

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Lmao. Whoa nelly! Before you go all "kmc vs debate mode" on me, I have no problem with someone saying Logan. He certainly isn't lacking in the tactical department. I just think Spiderman is more in line with where I was going in the thread. But if you want to nominate Logan that's fine 🙂

Originally posted by Existere
Right, he is a better MA. He's also a better tactician, and he has the feats (as Dugan and I have posted) to back that up.

Spider-Man isn't an amalgamation of Reed and Wolverine so much as Reed and Deadpool.

I can go with Deadpool. Good tactics and a big talker.

In terms of in battle planning, I haven't seen anything that is more complex than what Parker has done in battle he relies more on his brains than using most of his powers. Especially considering his villians tend to be more powerful than him in that department.

Originally posted by Existere
Right, he is a better MA. He's also a better tactician, and he has the feats (as Dugan and I have posted) to back that up.

Spider-Man isn't an amalgamation of Reed and Wolverine so much as Reed and Deadpool.

cosigned.

Originally posted by Existere
Right, he is a better MA. He's also a better tactician, and he has the feats (as Dugan and I have posted) to back that up.

Spider-Man isn't an amalgamation of Reed and Wolverine so much as Reed and Deadpool.

Deadpool is a good tactician.

Not sure if you were saying he wasn't.

Originally posted by Existere
Tactically viable meaning?
Meaning he will use his powerset (and there is nothing wrong with that), since he can soak up damage and win quickly.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Nor does spiderman. So I am not seeing your point. Wolverine uses tactic quite often especially against groups. Just as much if not more so then spiderman. He formally trained and numerous years as leader in military and teams. He more well rounded tactically and more experienced. There is no way spiderman is more tactical then Wolverine.

Doesn't matter where he was trained, it's how often he uses it. And military training was not what the OP was talking about. I was talking more about what the OP was talking about. Since he made the thread.

I'm not saying that Logan doesn't have tactics, just that based on what the thread starter said Spider-Man fits his description.

Originally posted by Mindset
Deadpool is a good tactician.

Not sure if you were saying he wasn't.

I think he's a good tactician, yes.

I don't think he's as good as Wolverine, and I think he's comparable to Spider-Man.

Originally posted by 753
Cykes and rogers are fine, but magneto and doom are really in another tier, tactically speaking.
idk. Penance seemed to outsmart Doom Tactically.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I can go with Deadpool. Good tactics and a big talker.

In terms of in battle planning, I haven't seen anything that is more complex than what Parker has done in battle he relies more on his brains than using most of his powers. Especially considering his villians tend to be more powerful than him in that department.

This is mid battle tactic, no preparation of any kind. Spiderman not on same level in a random encounter. He good and even better with prep. But this does not concern any type of battle planning.

I think acting like he doesn't have good tactics is part of his tactics.

Originally posted by Mindset
Deadpool is a good tactician.

Not sure if you were saying he wasn't.

better than wolverine for tat matter

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Meaning he will use his powerset (and there is nothing wrong with that), since he can soak up damage and win quickly.
Sounds tactically viable to me...

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
This is mid battle tactic, no preparation of any kind. Spiderman not on same level in a random encounter. He good and even better with prep. But this does not concern any type of battle planning.
I disagree. He doesn't prep all that often anyways.

Originally posted by dmills
idk. Penance seemed to outsmart Doom Tactically.
so did baner, but he's still top tier in the department. mags has a better track record IMO

Originally posted by Existere
Sounds tactically viable to me...
If it works for him, but then again any character using their powers would be a good "tactician" in that case.

Does he have good tactics, yes? Does he use them constantly or with the same complexity? I'd say no.

Originally posted by dmills
idk. Penance seemed to outsmart Doom Tactically.
I don't remember it happening like that, and even if it did, so?

Doom has proven himself a great tactician.

Why doesn't Tony get any love?