Hulk, Herc & Thor vs. Black Bolt, Vulcan, & Gladiator

Started by carver95 pages

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Except thor has stalemated him time after time and BB has beaten him time after time.

So how you would put him above anyone in this match i don't know. 😐

Thor has stalemated SAVAGE hulk. He got his a** ripped up WITH the Odin Force by Rulk and Current Hulk STOMPED that same Rulk. Current Hulk isn't Savage Hulk, he is MUCH more powerful and even using Savage Hulk, a weaker version than Current Hulk, his last showing against thor had him beating Thor to sleep.

Black Bolt would get stomped as well and if you want to know why, I don't mind telling you.

I thought it was due to Hulk essiantialy having
too much power to absorb which caused an explosion big
enough to form a mushroom cloud and Hulk was
undamaged after and wide awake but I could be wrong

Originally posted by carver9
I HATE the way Hulk is treated on the forum. You all completely ignore his comic showings of him tanking attacks and hanging with high heralds/beating them. I would give Hulk the majority against anyone mentioned in this thread. Stop lowballing a powerful character like Hulk. He has proven his capablities and its stupid to ignore "on-panel evidence".

Hulks fights and victories against cosmic/herald level beings are PIS. These are hyperspace/teleporting/matter manipulating/energy manipulating/transforming beings and to take at face value that they entered into a slug-fest with someone whos only damage output is ..well..Slugfest is just plain luda..

Comic cosmics are pussies, well everyone except Delta Ray Dave, they don't fight using their entire range of viable battle tactics, they tend to fall into the dimension of the person they're fighting. ie, When hulk fought and beat Gladiator, we should have only seen Gladiator moving as a blur, we didn't we saw him reduced to a slugger and getting out slugged.

Hulk doesn't take a majority from ANY mid-high level energy manipulator.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Hulks fights and victories against cosmic/herald level beings are PIS. These are hyperspace/teleporting/matter manipulating/energy manipulating/transforming beings and to take at face value that they entered into a slug-fest with someone whos only damage output is ..well..Slugfest is just plain luda..

Comic cosmics are pussies, well everyone except Delta Ray Dave, they don't fight using their entire range of viable battle tactics, they tend to fall into the dimension of the person they're fighting. ie, When hulk fought and beat Gladiator, we should have only seen Gladiator moving as a blur, we didn't we saw him reduced to a slugger and getting out slugged.

Hulk doesn't take a majority from ANY mid-high level energy manipulator.

Aaahhh, so a Hulks entire history of this is PIS... hhhmmm, does that really make sense? I guess we should ignore the character history of tanking, adapting, healing, and physical stats increasing which he has shown since his creation.

Damn

Originally posted by McNasty996
I thought it was due to Hulk essiantialy having
too much power to absorb which caused an explosion big
enough to form a mushroom cloud and Hulk was
undamaged after and wide awake but I could be wrong

Naah, and if that was the case, that would make Hulk look even more superior since Rulk was able to absorb Surfers cosmic power along with Thor Odin Force power.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor has stalemated SAVAGE hulk. He got his a** ripped up WITH the Odin Force by Rulk and Current Hulk STOMPED that same Rulk. Current Hulk isn't Savage Hulk, he is MUCH more powerful and even using Savage Hulk, a weaker version than Current Hulk, his last showing against thor had him beating Thor to sleep.

Black Bolt would get stomped as well and if you want to know why, I don't mind telling you.

Current Hulk would NOT stomp thor or BB. He might beat thor. But he is not stomping him.

And please don't use Rulk feats. Its just annoying. Rulk in general in inconsistent.

And as for BB...well that fight won't happen until hes back from the dead.

Originally posted by carver9
I HATE the way Hulk is treated on the forum. You all completely ignore his comic showings of him tanking attacks and hanging with high heralds/beating them. I would give Hulk the majority against anyone mentioned in this thread. Stop lowballing a powerful character like Hulk. He has proven his capablities and its stupid to ignore "on-panel evidence".

Stones + glass houses = Bad Carver.

And seriously, Rulk is a joke character. His feats go completely against consistent showings of other characters, with plenty of bad writing in there.

lol at him beating Thor with Mjolnir because of "zero gravity" or whatever the hell crap excuse Loeb came up with.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Stones + glass houses = Bad Carver.

And seriously, Rulk is a joke character. His feats go completely against consistent showings of other characters, with plenty of bad writing in there.

Ok, how about this. Current Hulk>>Savage Hulk going by numerous of on panel statements and Savage Hulk beat Thor to sleep with his own hammer. How about this. Current Hulk>>Savage Hulk and Savage Hulk took on the entire team of Avengers recently "last year"(including Thor) and was stomping them. Current Hulk>>Savage Hulk and Savage Hulk stalemated Thor for hours. Savage Hulk was also the only one capable of taking on Onslaught and Thor was right there also.

Is that proof enough?

I consistently see Carver using the Rulk example against Thor.

1) Rulk was absorbing Thor's energy.
2) Thor kicked his ass in the rematch.

And please don't call that Thor Odin Force Thor; he had some of it. I also highly doubt Loeb was writing that fight with this in mind. Also, the Rulk beat down Loeb made as little sense as their first fight where he knocks Hulk out with a hold and a broken arm. Or the second fight, where he basically kills him with a trident through the chest. His energy absorption wasn't working....because. Even shrugged off his nuclear punch; just a big apology for the consistent ass kicking Hulk had at Rulk's hands. Jen was beating the shit out of Betty. It might make more sense if we take into account that the incarnation Rulk battled had just absorbed almost all of the energy stolen from him while he was World Breaker plus all of the cosmic energy Rulk stole from Thor, the Watcher, and Surfer etc.

Apparently the Fear avatar Hulk is going to have a battle with Thor. We'll see how that goes.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Current Hulk would NOT stomp thor or BB. He might beat thor. But he is not stomping him.

And please don't use Rulk feats. Its just annoying. Rulk in general in inconsistent.

And as for BB...well that fight won't happen until hes back from the dead.

He sure the hell will unless again, you completely ignore Thor and Savage Hulk history.

Why not use Rulk? Thor got stomped by him whereas he was nothing but a toy to Hulk. Back then, Rulk showings of running through people were consistent until he met WWH.

Black Bolt would get stomped and I have proof that he would get stomped.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I consistently see Carver using the Rulk example against Thor.

1) Rulk was absorbing Thor's energy.
2) Thor kicked his ass in the rematch.

And please don't call that Thor Odin Force Thor; he had some of it. I also highly doubt Loeb was writing that fight with this in mind. Also, the Rulk beat down Loeb made as little sense as their first fight where he knocks Hulk out with a hold and a broken arm. Or the second fight, where he basically kills him with a trident through the chest. His energy absorption wasn't working....because. Even shrugged off his nuclear punch; just a big apology for the consistent ass kicking Hulk had at Rulk's hands. Jen was beating the shit out of Betty. It might make more sense if we take into account that the incarnation Rulk battled had just absorbed almost all of the energy stolen from him while he was World Breaker plus all of the cosmic energy Rulk stole from Thor, the Watcher, and Surfer etc.

Apparently the Fear avatar Hulk is going to have a battle with Thor. We'll see how that goes.

Hmmh like I said context 👆. If Rulk absorbed Hulks gamma energy he would turn back to banner Thor atleast put up a fight

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I consistently see Carver using the Rulk example against Thor.

1) Rulk was absorbing Thor's energy.
2) Thor kicked his ass in the rematch.

And please don't call that Thor Odin Force Thor; he had some of it. I also highly doubt Loeb was writing that fight with this in mind. Also, the Rulk beat down Loeb made as little sense as their first fight where he knocks Hulk out with a hold and a broken arm. Or the second fight, where he basically kills him with a trident through the chest. His energy absorption wasn't working....because. Even shrugged off his nuclear punch; just a big apology for the consistent ass kicking Hulk had at Rulk's hands. Jen was beating the shit out of Betty. It might make more sense if we take into account that the incarnation Rulk battled had just absorbed almost all of the energy stolen from him while he was World Breaker plus all of the cosmic energy Rulk stole from Thor, the Watcher, and Surfer etc.

Apparently the Fear avatar Hulk is going to have a battle with Thor. We'll see how that goes.

What are you talking about Rage?

Before Thor and Rulk fought, Rulk fought A-Bomb and then fought Savage Hulk. Within this same time, Thor shows up and Hammer shot him twice with a full fledge hit. He then take other attacks from Thor, grab Thor, wip that a** and then carry him to space. He then dive bomb from the moon to Earth head first. He fights Savage Hulk and Thor then shows up. He had no rest at all. Thor dive bombs him and then proceed at tagging an exausted Rulk.

Their first fight was proof that Thor wasn't nothing compared to Rulk.

Now in regards to Rulk stomping Hulk... well, you are PARTIALLY right. Rulk stomped SAVAGE Hulk. He was superior to that Hulk... I'm not denying that. When he fought WWH, he wasn't anything but a mere ant, even while using his absorption.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Hmmh like I said context 👆. If Rulk absorbed Hulks gamma energy he would turn back to banner Thor atleast put up a fight

I guess you didn't read the fight huh? He did absorb Hulks gamma power and hit him with a punch equivalent to a nuclear blast. His absorption did crap to the Hulk and Hulk amped himself further even during the time Rulk was stealing his power.

READ THE COMIC.

carver Rulk was absorbing the Odin Force during their encounter amping himself and weakening Thor

Originally posted by iceman24567
carver Rulk was absorbing the Odin Force during their encounter amping himself and weakening Thor

And Rulk was absorbing the gamma energy from Hulk and it did NOTHING to WWH. So wit that said, I guess that means Hulk power>the partial Odin force power Thor had INCLUDING Thor own power?

Originally posted by carver9
I guess you didn't read the fight huh? He did absorb Hulks gamma power and hit him with a punch equivalent to a nuclear blast. His absorption did crap to the Hulk and Hulk amped himself further even during the time Rulk was stealing his power.

READ THE COMIC.

Did read it its pretty suspect that Hulk can overload Rulks power draning yet Silver Surfer can easily drain Hulk yet Surfer turns around and gets drained himself even though their powersources are similar. I love how you say I didnt read the comic when the whole bs fight was posted everywhere grow up

Originally posted by iceman24567
Did read it its pretty suspect that Hulk can overload Rulks power draning yet Silver Surfer can easily drain Hulk yet Surfer turns around and gets drained himself even though their powersources are similar. I love how you say I didnt read the comic when the whole bs fight was posted everywhere grow up

Um... Rulk never had any issues at draining Savage Hulk. He was able to do it with no trouble at all just like he was able to drain Surfer and Thors power. The only time he really had any issues was with WWH. WWH was power personafied.

Originally posted by carver9
Black Bolt would get stomped and I have proof that he would get stomped.
Like what? Hulk losing every fight they have ever had.

And besides what does it matter. In this fight Vulcan can just drain Hulk. And thats not just trying to be mean or spite you. I mean vulcan controlled magic for gods sake...I think he can drain gamma energy.