Hulk, Herc & Thor vs. Black Bolt, Vulcan, & Gladiator

Originally posted by carver9
He screamed and it was shown on panel. People from Earth saw the battle as plain as day and Hulk and Skrull Bolt was on the moon.

The containment field had nothing to do with him ripping through reality. The containment field was there to prevent Skrull Bolt from destroying the planet. Skrull Bolt was a direct carbon copy of the real BB and SB scream did jack to WWH and he did it twice. The second scream, Hulk walked straight through it and punched his a** to sleep.

Rulk absorption feats are better unless you can show me Vulcan absorbing something as powerful as the Odin Force or Surfer power cosmic or Dormomu power.

Ill be waiting for those feats.

It never ever showed him scream at hulk on panel. I'll deconstruct the other parts of your post once you get this.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Do I have to post the fight? It was three pages of Rulk beating the utter crap out of Hulk. True, Thor landed a sneak attack, but said sneak attack can't be enough to trump Rulk's energy absorption advantage.

Only you would think that. Once again, this was Loeb being Loeb and offering an apology. I've seen Hulk fans admit that the fight made zero sense, and it's true. For christ sake, Hulk was not even enraged and took him out with a thunder clap.

I'm not trying to downplay anything. I'm telling you the reality of the situation.

Omg, Rage, you are my boy but DAMN. I admitted a long time ago that Rulk is> than Savage Hulk... I am referring to WWH. Rulk can not hang with WWH. His showings against Savage proved who was superior but his amping along with his strength was boo boo compared to WWH.

Why wouldn't the fight make sense? WWH amping abilites are insane and Rulk couldn't take enough power from him to drop him due to WWH amping. He thenhit Hulk with enough force that it created a nuclear explosion and it did next to nothing to him.

It happened Rage... no way to take from it. We already know that WWH>Savage Hulk... that fight proved just that.

Originally posted by carver9
When did Thor stalemate Zeus. From what I seen, Zeus dropped Thor along with other heralds with just a wave of his hands.

Originally posted by carver9
When did Thor stalemate Zeus. From what I seen, Zeus dropped Thor along with other heralds with just a wave of his hands.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Liar.

So are you going to answer me?

What did I lie about? If its about the lap top... I am still at work.

What question did you ask me?

Originally posted by carver9
What did I lie about? If its about the lap top... I am still at work.

What question did you ask me?

I was talking about being speechless.

And I was asking why you posted this to me:

Originally posted by carver9
Ok, how about this. Current Hulk>>Savage Hulk going by numerous of on panel statements and Savage Hulk beat Thor to sleep with his own hammer. How about this. Current Hulk>>Savage Hulk and Savage Hulk took on the entire team of Avengers recently "last year"(including Thor) and was stomping them. Current Hulk>>Savage Hulk and Savage Hulk stalemated Thor for hours. Savage Hulk was also the only one capable of taking on Onslaught and Thor was right there also.

Is that proof enough?

Originally posted by iceman24567
During the Trojan war

Zeus dropped Thor in a couple of panels along with other Heralds.

Get 'em, Carver. 😛

Originally posted by -Pr-
What are you talking about?

because he did so in ways he shouldn't be able to. Bad writing.

Gotcha...

Ok... I was basically naming Hulks feats from Savage Hulk who pales in comparison to WWH and providing reasons on why WWH is>Thor (which he is).

Why would it be bad writing when everything that Rulk did during that time was consistent until he met someone more powerful than him? Doesn't make sense. WWH was just too much for Rulk...TOO much and that is why he got pushed away like he did. It had nothing to do with bad writing, it was more on power level.

Originally posted by carver9
Gotcha...

Ok... I was basically naming Hulks feats from Savage Hulk who pales in comparison to WWH and providing reasons on why WWH is>Thor (which he is).

Why would it be bad writing when everything that Rulk did during that time was consistent until he met someone more powerful than him? Doesn't make sense. WWH was just too much for Rulk...TOO much and that is why he got pushed away like he did. It had nothing to do with bad writing, it was more on power level.

But why? I didn't say anything about Savage Hulk.

Rulk might have been consistent to himself, but the book wasn't consistent to other characters, like Thor for example. You want to take it as Rulk being powerful? Go right ahead, but it would be counted as a low showing for Thor, not his average.

Originally posted by -Pr-
But why? I didn't say anything about Savage Hulk.

Rulk might have been consistent to himself, but the book wasn't consistent to other characters, like Thor for example. You want to take it as Rulk being powerful? Go right ahead, but it would be counted as a low showing for Thor, not his average.

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I don't see how anyone can read the early Rulk issues and not come to that conclusion.

Originally posted by -Pr-
But why? I didn't say anything about Savage Hulk.

Rulk might have been consistent to himself, but the book wasn't consistent to other characters, like Thor for example. You want to take it as Rulk being powerful? Go right ahead, but it would be counted as a low showing for Thor, not his average.

Why would it be a low showing to Thor when during that time, Rulk was destroying everyone until he faced WWH? That's what I am trying to understand.

Hulk did what he suppose to do with his powers... AMP. Rulk tried to drain him to no avail. WWH amping abilities was superior to Rulk draining abilities and that is why he got curb stomped.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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I don't see how anyone can read the early Rulk issues and not come to that conclusion.

What conclusion was I suppose to come to? I just think you are not realizing how powerful WWH is.

Originally posted by carver9
What conclusion was I suppose to come to? I just think you are not realizing how powerful WWH is.

WWH is more powerful than Savage Hulk and more powerful than Rulk. I don't think anyone is disputing that.

But the Rulk/Thor encounter was a low showing for Thor; I don't see how you can twist it into something other than that. Especially considering Thor/Hulk's history as a whole and just general common sense as it pertains to comics.

Originally posted by carver9
Why would it be a low showing to Thor when during that time, Rulk was destroying everyone until he faced WWH? That's what I am trying to understand.

Hulk did what he suppose to do with his powers... AMP. Rulk tried to drain him to no avail. WWH amping abilities was superior to Rulk draining abilities and that is why he got curb stomped.

Because Thor wasn't just written badly, he was written inaccurately.

Why do you keep bringing up WWH?

Originally posted by carver9
Zeus dropped Thor in a couple of panels along with other Heralds.

Stop making shit up.

Thor withstood like half a dozen attacks from a Warrior Madness Zeus and this was a Thor that was in constant agony as most of his bones were like shattered. His might was also weakened as a result.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Stop making shit up.

Thor withstood like half a dozen attacks from a Warrior Madness Zeus and this was a Thor that was in constant agony as most of his bones were like shattered. His might was also weakened as a result.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
WWH is more powerful than Savage Hulk and more powerful than Rulk. I don't think anyone is disputing that.

But the Rulk/Thor encounter was a low showing for Thor; I don't see how you can twist it into something other than that. Especially considering Thor/Hulk's history as a whole and just general common sense as it pertains to comics.

But again, you would have to basically take everything away from Rulk that happened on panel. Thor wasn't the only person Rulk owned and some of the people was VERY powerful. Look at all of the people he owned "before" absorbing Surfers power. The only time Rulk really had any type of problem was when he faced WWH so why discredit WWH showing because Thor got his a** beat?

That fight basically showed how poweful Rulk was during that time... even OF Thor was surprised at Rulks power level. The same goes for Current Hulk. He really never had any type of threats until he faced Zeus.

Hell, Marvel basically gave us a description of WWH power level (even though it was a what if) when they wrote him surviving a planetary destroying attack being the only living being on Earth and then they wrote WWH going against every being on the face of the planet which included Sentry and Thor. Marvel is throwing all of this right in you all's face, it isn't hard to comprehend what they are trying to say.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Stop making shit up.

Thor withstood like half a dozen attacks from a Warrior Madness Zeus and this was a Thor that was in constant agony as most of his bones were like shattered. His might was also weakened as a result.

Didn't Zeus and Thor go at it more than once?

Originally posted by carver9
But again, you would have to basically take everything away from Rulk that happened on panel. Thor wasn't the only person Rulk owned and some of the people was VERY powerful. Look at all of the people he owned "before" absorbing Surfers power. The only time Rulk really had any type of problem was when he faced WWH so why discredit WWH showing because Thor got his a** beat?

That fight basically showed how poweful Rulk was during that time... even OF Thor was surprised at Rulks power level. The same goes for Current Hulk. He really never had any type of threats until he faced Zeus.

Hell, Marvel basically have us a description of WWH power level (even though it was a what it) when they wrote him surviving a planetary destroying attack being the only living being on Earth and then they wrote WWH going against every being on the face of the planet which included Sentry and Thor. Marvel is throwing all of this right in you all's face, it isn't hard to comprehend what they are trying to say.

If you're talking about Rulk soloing the Defenders and killing Grandmaster...I really don't have anything to say outside of the Loebforce working overtime. And while Thor had the Odinforce at that time during publication history, Loeb made no effort to showcase this or even mention it. Considering Loeb has a history of not researching other characters outside of who he's penning at the moment (see the first Superman & Batman arc), it's not hard to see why people think that's a low showing.

I'm not sure what WWH has to do with this, anyway.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
If you're talking about Rulk soloing the Defenders and killing Grandmaster...I really don't have anything to say outside of the Loebforce working overtime. And while Thor had the Odinforce at that time during publication history, Loeb made no effort to showcase this or even mention it. Considering Loeb has a history of not researching other characters outside of who he's penning at the moment (see the first Superman & Batman arc), it's not hard to see why people think that's a low showing.

I'm not sure what WWH has to do with this, anyway.

WWH was brought up a couple of pages back because someone was stating that Hulk is a none factor in this fight when all in all, he is the main ingredient in this fight.

I brought Rulk up as an example of WWH being>Thor due to someone saying that Hulk shouldn't be able to beat Thor. Then you all brought up Rulk as some type of crutch when all in all he wasn't.