Hulk, Herc & Thor vs. Black Bolt, Vulcan, & Gladiator

Originally posted by carver9
And Rulk was absorbing the gamma energy from Hulk and it did NOTHING to WWH. So wit that said, I guess that means Hulk power>the partial Odin force power Thor had INCLUDING Thor own power?

Originally posted by carver9
Ok, how about this. Current Hulk>>Savage Hulk going by numerous of on panel statements and Savage Hulk beat Thor to sleep with his own hammer. How about this. Current Hulk>>Savage Hulk and Savage Hulk took on the entire team of Avengers recently "last year"(including Thor) and was stomping them. Current Hulk>>Savage Hulk and Savage Hulk stalemated Thor for hours. Savage Hulk was also the only one capable of taking on Onslaught and Thor was right there also.

Is that proof enough?

What are you talking about?

Originally posted by carver9
He sure the hell will unless again, you completely ignore Thor and Savage Hulk history.

Why not use Rulk? Thor got stomped by him whereas he was nothing but a toy to Hulk. Back then, Rulk showings of running through people were consistent until he met WWH.

Black Bolt would get stomped and I have proof that he would get stomped.

because he did so in ways he shouldn't be able to. Bad writing.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Like what? Hulk losing every fight they have ever had.

And besides what does it matter. In this fight Vulcan can just drain Hulk. And thats not just trying to be mean or spite you. I mean vulcan controlled magic for gods sake...I think he can drain gamma energy.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Why because chracter A beat character B yet character B also beat character C so by proxy character A can beat characters C? Is that what your saying? Ok well Thor stalemated Zeus using ALL his power the same Zeus that waxed WWh using only h2h so I guess Thor by proxy is more powerful than WWh? Can you see the fail in that logic?

Um, Thor recently got stomped by a depowered Odin in less than 2 panels. Zeus and Odin (with his complete powers) are equals. That argument didn't aid you.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Like what? Hulk losing every fight they have ever had.

And besides what does it matter. In this fight Vulcan can just drain Hulk. And thats not just trying to be mean or spite you. I mean vulcan controlled magic for gods sake...I think he can drain gamma energy.

Again, Black Bolt defeated Savage Hulk. The example I was going to use is a skrull Bolt voice feat being>the original BB scream. Would you like to know why? Don't mind telling ya buddy. Skrull bolt was placed into a containment feild by reed and Tony. They needed SB to scream as hard as he can so that he could open a plain to a different reality. Guess what, his scream was so powerful that he ripped through reality.

This same skrull bolt fought WWH and SCREAMED at him. He screamed at Hulk so hard that it ripped a chunk out of the moon the size of Rhode Island. Well, Hulk tanked that sh** and asked for more. Remember, this was a full fledg scream and Skrull Bolt did it more than once.

Vulcan can TRY to drain WWH. I'm pretty sure it won't work since someone who absorption feats are>Vulcan and failed at draining WWH due to his power level. WWH amping would prevent that buddy just like it prevented Rulk from draining him.

Originally posted by carver9
Um, Thor recently got stomped by a depowered Odin in less than 2 panels. Zeus and Odin (with his complete powers) are equals. That argument didn't aid you.

Originally posted by -Pr-
What are you talking about?

because he did so in ways he shouldn't be able to. Bad writing.

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I'm speechless.

Originally posted by carver9
Again, Black Bolt defeated Savage Hulk. The example I was going to use is a skrull Bolt voice feat being>the original BB scream. Would you like to know why? Don't mind telling ya buddy. Skrull bolt was placed into a containment feild by reed and Tony. They needed SB to scream as hard as he can so that he could open a plain to a different reality. Guess what, his scream was so powerful that he ripped through reality.

This same skrull bolt fought WWH and SCREAMED at him. He screamed at Hulk so hard that it ripped a chunk out of the moon the size of Rhode Island. Well, Hulk tanked that sh** and asked for more. Remember, this was a full fledg scream and Skrull Bolt did it more than once.

Vulcan can TRY to drain WWH. I'm pretty sure it won't work since someone who absorption feats are>Vulcan and failed at draining WWH due to his power level. WWH amping would prevent that buddy just like it prevented Rulk from draining him.

And once again I do not believe he screamed. It never showed him scream. And even if he did it happened off panel. He whispered.

Who has better absorbtion feats than vulcan yet failed to drain hulk. Please do tell.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Are you serious that argument is legit useless you completely ignore it and strictly choose to lowball. Prove by on panel feats that Zeus and Odin are equals mr lowballer

On panel statements of them being peers. Zeus is a high end skyfather.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Ummmm....there are many things wrong with this. First of all it only ripped through reality because he was in a containment field. Because Skrull Bolt was in no way stronger than real bolt.

And once again I do not believe he screamed. It never showed him scream. And even if he did it happened off panel. He whispered.

Who has better absorbtion feats than vulcan yet failed to drain hulk. Please do tell.

He screamed and it was shown on panel. People from Earth saw the battle as plain as day and Hulk and Skrull Bolt was on the moon.

The containment field had nothing to do with him ripping through reality. The containment field was there to prevent Skrull Bolt from destroying the planet. Skrull Bolt was a direct carbon copy of the real BB and SB scream did jack to WWH and he did it twice. The second scream, Hulk walked straight through it and punched his a** to sleep.

Rulk absorption feats are better unless you can show me Vulcan absorbing something as powerful as the Odin Force or Surfer power cosmic or Dormomu power.

Ill be waiting for those feats.

The Skrulls were just beginning to understand how Black Bolt's powers were worked. They had not yet understood how his powers work. How on Earth could the Skrull Black Bolt's voice be more powerful than the real deal? Makes no sense.

Also, Black Bolt was abducted right before World War Hulk I believe. It was the real deal who participated in the Infinity Gem hunt.

Originally posted by carver9
What are you talking about Rage?

Before Thor and Rulk fought, Rulk fought A-Bomb and then fought Savage Hulk. Within this same time, Thor shows up and Hammer shot him twice with a full fledge hit. He then take other attacks from Thor, grab Thor, wip that a** and then carry him to space. He then dive bomb from the moon to Earth head first. He fights Savage Hulk and Thor then shows up. He had no rest at all. Thor dive bombs him and then proceed at tagging an exausted Rulk.

Their first fight was proof that Thor wasn't nothing compared to Rulk.

Now in regards to Rulk stomping Hulk... well, you are PARTIALLY right. Rulk stomped SAVAGE Hulk. He was superior to that Hulk... I'm not denying that. When he fought WWH, he wasn't anything but a mere ant, even while using his absorption.

Comics.

A sufficient amount of time passed between those fights; unless you have evidence to the contrary he was not weary. I never saw any evidence or even a hint of his stamina faltering. The fights were basically Rulk beating the crap out of his opponents.

You should read the comics you're referencing. There was no mention of exhaustion and all he did was punch Hulk a few times. Throw in his energy absorption abilities and arguing that he was weary is something I call bullshit on unless you have evidence to the contrary.

You do realize that World Breaker Hulk was defeated through energy absorption? The only reason why it failed was because it was Loeb and the f*cker did whatever he wanted. It was just a big apology. You're the only one delusional enough to think that this was some indication of Hulk's ranking. He'd have to be on the higher end of the Trans level in terms of power to stomp a charged up Rulk and not feel any drain from his energy absorption.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The Skrulls were just beginning to understand how Black Bolt's powers were worked. They had not yet understood how his powers work. How on Earth could the Skrull Black Bolt's voice be more powerful than the real deal? Makes no sense.

Also, Black Bolt was abducted right before World War Hulk I believe. It was the real deal who participated in the Infinity Gem hunt.

I never said that Skrull Bolt was more powerful but his feats are insane.

Originally posted by Juk3n
Hulks fights and victories against cosmic/herald level beings are PIS. These are hyperspace/teleporting/matter manipulating/energy manipulating/transforming beings and to take at face value that they entered into a slug-fest with someone whos only damage output is ..well..Slugfest is just plain luda..

Comic cosmics are pussies, well everyone except Delta Ray Dave, they don't fight using their entire range of viable battle tactics, they tend to fall into the dimension of the person they're fighting. ie, When hulk fought and beat Gladiator, we should have only seen Gladiator moving as a blur, we didn't we saw him reduced to a slugger and getting out slugged.

Hulk doesn't take a majority from ANY mid-high level energy manipulator.

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Originally posted by carver9
On panel statements of them being peers. Zeus is a high end skyfather.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Comics.

A sufficient amount of time passed between those fights; unless you have evidence to the contrary he was not weary. I never saw any evidence or even a hint of his stamina faltering. The fights were basically Rulk beating the crap out of his opponents.

You should read the comics you're referencing. There was no mention of exhaustion and all he did was punch Hulk a few times. Throw in his energy absorption abilities and arguing that he was weary is something I call bullshit on unless you have evidence to the contrary.

You do realize that World Breaker Hulk was defeated through energy absorption? The only reason why it failed was because it was Loeb and the f*cker did whatever he wanted. It was just a big apology. You're the only one delusional enough to think that this was some indication of Hulk's ranking. He'd have to be on the higher end of the Trans level in terms of power to stomp a charged up Rulk and not feel any drain from his energy absorption.

Not enough time... Rulk was constantly fighting throughout that arc. He fought Thor...landed head first from the moon to Earth... fought Savage Hulk and then Thor sneak attack him and pounds on him and then he fight Hulk again.

I guess Hulk is trans then since Rulk gamma drain didn't work on WWH enough to gain any type of advantage.

You are seriously trying to down Hulk feats...please stop and accept what happened. If it was Thor, you wouldn't be saying half of this.

Carver your actually the first person I have ever heard say that the skrull was equal to the real BlackBolt. 😐

Originally posted by carver9
Not enough time... Rulk was constantly fighting throughout that arc. He fought Thor...landed head first from the moon to Earth... fought Savage Hulk and then Thor sneak attack him and pounds on him and then he fight Hulk again.

I guess Hulk is trans then since Rulk gamma drain didn't work on WWH enough to gain any type of advantage.

You are seriously trying to down Hulk feats...please stop and accept what happened. If it was Thor, you wouldn't be saying half of this.

Do I have to post the fight? It was three pages of Rulk beating the utter crap out of Hulk. True, Thor landed a sneak attack, but said sneak attack can't be enough to trump Rulk's energy absorption advantage.

Only you would think that. Once again, this was Loeb being Loeb and offering an apology. I've seen Hulk fans admit that the fight made zero sense, and it's true. For christ sake, Hulk was not even enraged and took him out with a thunder clap.

I'm not trying to downplay anything. I'm telling you the reality of the situation.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Statements really? Too bad on panel feats show Odin to be superior hell their encounters with Thor proves this you said yourself a weakned Odin easily beat Thor yet Zeus at full power using all his abilities could only stalemate him. Dont contradict yourself this time its either Thor is peers with Zeus which means Thor is also more powerful than Hulk or Zeus is not peers with Odin cant be both if your saying a weakened Odin< full powered Zeus by proxy Thor would also be more powerful than Odin

When did Thor stalemate Zeus. From what I seen, Zeus dropped Thor along with other heralds with just a wave of his hands.

Originally posted by carver9
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I'm speechless.

Liar.

So are you going to answer me?