Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah, I just think Max was just as fast, had way higher damage soak. the scene where he's fighting the tigers and dude, it's faster paced than anything in Troy. They were like 'clangclanclangclangclang', whereas in Troy, it was more like 'clang...clang...clancclang....'His speed and presence of mind, keeping from being mauled AND fighting off that dude was pretty impressive. Achilles didn't show anything in Troy that suggested he would survive that.
You seem to always avoid Achilles' feat of storming the beach with only 50 other men against hundreds. During this scene Achilles dropped groups of soldiers with a showcase of speed that dwarfs anything that Maximus displayed. Not only that, he did it without being touched 😉
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
You seem to always avoid Achilles' feat of storming the beach with only 50 other men against hundreds. During this scene Achilles dropped groups of soldiers with a showcase of speed that dwarfs anything that Maximus displayed. Not only that, he did it without being touched 😉
He had help, not every soldier was focused on him. It's completely different than fighting a champion Gladiator and two tigers, all of which want to kill you.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
He had help, not every soldier was focused on him. It's completely different than fighting a champion Gladiator and two tigers, all of which want to kill you.
You really think a tiger would surprise Achilles even after I showed how he covered his back with shield a split-second before an arrow struck? Dude has super-human-ish levels of awareness.
Put Achilles in that fight, he guts the retired champion before the tigers are released and then slaughters all three tigers and does another "look at me, I'm Brad ****ing Pitt" pose.
Originally posted by RobtardOne was killed by Joaquin Phoenix. The other by Orlando Bloom.
You really think a tiger would surprise Achilles even after I showed how he covered his back with shield a split-second before an arrow struck? Dude has super-human-ish levels of awareness.Put Achilles in that fight, he guts the retired champion before the tigers are released and then slaughters all three tigers and does another "look at me, I'm Brad ****ing Pitt" pose.
Maximus wins.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
It's not a concession, it's me losing interest. Maximus is faster and has more damage soak, IMO he wins.
Yet he literally isn't faster nor does he have higher damage soak.
Achilles was shot through the Achilles tendon, which made him scream like a pansy and its an indicator to the legend of him losing his powers. He then took three arrows to the stomach(1-2 he pulled out) and was still walking forward until the fourth stopped him and he dies about 5 minutes later.
5 arrows > 1 stab wound.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNxThe fact that when Maximus was fighting the guy and two tigers, the action was far more fast paced than anything in Troy. The fact that Maximus fought on with a punctured lung.
other than, maybe choreography what leads you to believe achilles is slower?
Faster and higher damage soak. This is being ignored because of the hard on you guys have for Achilles.
There are no motivators more powerful than passion, revenge, and freedom. This is what drives Maximus. Achilles superficial desire for fame and glory would lose every round in this category.
Achilles weakness would be his ultimate destroyer. His arrogance would be his ultimate downfall as he believes himself invincible, however Maximus’s weakness is used to make himself strong. His mortality is what drives him, and though it could result in his end (and via Gladiator does) it is also part of the drive behind his passion and search for revenge. Maximus runs away with this one.