Originally posted by inimalist
Magneto's ability to amp himself would be included in the limit.I don't really know if I understand the reference though, does Magneto get substantially stronger if he taps into the magnetosphere? Is it quantifiable in any way? For instance, is it worse than giving Magneto regeneration?
he is always tapped into the magnetpsphere. the machine he used furthered his ability to do so. at one point his power went out of control and was about to tear apart the entire atmosphere of earth. the machine def amped him--he really sort of became one with the em field. did it do anything 'quantifiable'? not really sure i can answer that. i just thought the limit was BASE mags, not what mags himself could amp himself to. just trying to keep things clear.
as far as the regeneration--as i said, he was def more powerful. frankly, i really don't see him tire very often, so, meh. it's different, but amping him would be a bigger advantage imo.
Originally posted by leonidas
he is always tapped into the magnetpsphere. the machine he used furthered his ability to do so. at one point his power went out of control and was about to tear apart the entire atmosphere of earth. the machine def amped him--he really sort of became one with the em field. did it do anything 'quantifiable'? not really sure i can answer that. i just thought the limit was BASE mags, not what mags himself could amp himself to. just trying to keep things clear.
well like, the problem with saying "base" then becomes, well, what if he shields himself, is that still his "base" durability, etc. Its a semantics game that is rife for argument
However, if Magneto amped himself with a machine, that is not acceptable under the power levels.
Like, say Magneto has one of those moments in comics where he is like "now I'll tap into my true potential by harnessing the EM field etc", that would be totally cool. An outside amp does not represent his baseline. I will look at the thread, but I think this might be more of an argumentative point than specifically about the rules. What I mean is that it might be more of an unquantifiable amp that participants and judges are going to have to gauge, rather than something quantifiable that I can say, "yes, ok, that is above the limits"
Originally posted by leonidas
as far as the regeneration--as i said, he was def more powerful. frankly, i really don't see him tire very often, so, meh. it's different, but amping him would be a bigger advantage imo.
I can't think of a time that someone has "tired" in a tournament battle, since it goes by top showings and such... I won't editorialize on Magneto tiring specifically though.
for the record, I tend to be looser about limits and such than might be preferred, so even though Magneto was the limit, and amping him with regen does make him more powerful, to disallow it would be to actually penalize you for selecting Magneto in a way, and of course, opens up crazy things like, if one of your characters does anything to protect or amp Mags, is that allowed?
I just brought it up as a point of comparison
Originally posted by inimalist
likely, the ban on "offensive time/reality manip" is more a ban of direct attacks that would damage/KO/etc your opponentuse as a buff/debuff is ok
EDIT: errr, for general questions, please keep it to PM or the tourney thread
Originally posted by Ambient
I'm asking you?Srry but everything is quite confusing thus far, I've dop a character cause there was a change in rule right after match 1 which really wouldnt suit my plan against the new rule then to find out that we could actually still amp.. Like i say I'm confused?
I'm really just entirely unsure as to what you want me to rule on...
PM me if you don't want to post it here, I just don't know where you are coming from. A physical amp that leads to a new power doesn't sound like it violates anything at all, but I can only assume there is more to it if you are thinking it might be problematic.
like, no worries, I have no problem answering questions, I'm just trying to figure out what perspective you want me to look at that from, especially considering the post you quoted was about the offensive use of time/reality manip 🙂
Originally posted by Ambient
Yeah I know that..Duping was just the beginning but what I wanted require some buffing within the limit of course but I had thought this was against the new rule = no amphage.. Ohh well, not complaining. I just wanted it to be sure for this match..
amping is ok
amping dupes is a little more problematic, but as long as they are clearly meta, it should be ok. As a strategy, I wouldn't rely on something where you have to amp dupes to win though